US-Iran War Has Begun! Iran launches dozens of ballistic missiles!

[Admiral Yi]

Kind of weird sitting around for the shoe to drop.

[mongers]

Kind of weird sitting around for the shoe to drop.

I had to google that to see if my guess at it's meaning was in the right ball park; is it an especially American saying, as I've not heard it before.

[Admiral Yi]

I kind of booted it (HAHAHAHAHA get it?).  Should be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[mongers]

I kind of booted it (HAHAHAHAHA get it?).  Should be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I wonder what it's origin is?

Cobblers, military, an observation on entropy?

[Maximus]

I kind of booted it (HAHAHAHAHA get it?).  Should be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I wonder what it's origin is?

Cobblers, military, an observation on entropy?

horseshoes?

edit: it turns out it's much more interesting than that: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wait_for_the_other_shoe_to_drop

[Sophie Scholl]

I kind of booted it (HAHAHAHAHA get it?).  Should be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I wonder what it's origin is?

Cobblers, military, an observation on entropy?

According to wikitionary and very closely tied to the definition from The Gothamist, "A common experience of tenement living in apartment-style housing in New York City, and other large cities, during the manufacturing boom of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Apartments were built, similar in design, with the bedrooms located directly above and underneath one another. Thus, it was normal to hear a neighbor removing their shoes in the apartment above. As one shoe made a sound hitting the floor, the expectation for the other shoe to make a similar disturbance was created."

[OttoVonBismarck]

Sounds like the Iraqi Parliament may have just passed a "show" law.

Apparently it resolves to "end any foreign presence on Iraqi soil and prevent the use of Iraqi airspace, soil and water for any reason", it provides no timetable for doing so.

Apparently it would also leave in place the 2014 Strategic Framework Agreement (which is what gave us Iraqi permission to basically fight in their country during the conflict with ISIS), I'm hearing the Iraqis are hesitant to push for anything more than a symbolic gesture since all the 5200 American troops in Iraq really do right now is help train and support the Iraqi Army in fighting ISIS remnants, so it's not really in their self interest for them to leave. But passing this legislation perhaps sates some of the popular angst among Iraqi Shiites about this.

I guess we'll see though, I wouldn't be shocked if despite all that, Donald just says "okay we'll leave" and withdraws immediately against advice of his military advisers. It would fit in with his general attitude about things.

[Admiral Yi]

Sounds like the Iraqi Parliament may have just passed a "show" law.

It is a nonbinding resolution, so a show law by definition.

[mongers]

Sounds like the Iraqi Parliament may have just passed a "show" law.

Apparently it resolves to "end any foreign presence on Iraqi soil and prevent the use of Iraqi airspace, soil and water for any reason", it provides no timetable for doing so.

Apparently it would also leave in place the 2014 Strategic Framework Agreement (which is what gave us Iraqi permission to basically fight in their country during the conflict with ISIS), I'm hearing the Iraqis are hesitant to push for anything more than a symbolic gesture since all the 5200 American troops in Iraq really do right now is help train and support the Iraqi Army in fighting ISIS remnants, so it's not really in their self interest for them to leave. But passing this legislation perhaps sates some of the popular angst among Iraqi Shiites about this.

I guess we'll see though, I wouldn't be shocked if despite all that, Donald just says "okay we'll leave" and withdraws immediately against advice of his military advisers. It would fit in with his general attitude about things.

He'd certainly do that if it suited Vladimir Putin's agenda.

[Zanza]

Iran has stated that they will now stop adhering to the last bit of the nuclear agreement of 2015 and will restart unlimited uranium enrichment. They had kept the agreement for a year after Trump had decided to end it and had started some non-agreement enrichment again in May, but will now do it unlimited and with higher purity.

Trump's legacy will be a nuclear armed Iran. An utter strategic defeat of American interest in the Middle East.

[Sheilbh]

Although it may also be a constitutional issue.

According to Middle East correspondent this would require a law. Laws have to be presented to Parliament by the cabinet, not the other way round so this may be as much as the Parliament can do.

And apparently as Iraq doesn't have a government at the minute (just a caretaker administration) they can't present laws.

[mongers]

Iran has stated that they will now stop adhering to the last bit of the nuclear agreement of 2015 and will restart unlimited uranium enrichment. They had kept the agreement for a year after Trump had decided to end it and had started some non-agreement enrichment again in May, but will now do it unlimited and with higher purity.

Trump's legacy will be a nuclear armed Iran. An utter strategic defeat of American interest in the Middle East.

And a nuclear armed Saudi Arabia, once they cash in their chit with the Pakistanis.

[The Brain]

Iran has stated that they will now stop adhering to the last bit of the nuclear agreement of 2015 and will restart unlimited uranium enrichment. They had kept the agreement for a year after Trump had decided to end it and had started some non-agreement enrichment again in May, but will now do it unlimited and with higher purity.

Trump's legacy will be a nuclear armed Iran. An utter strategic defeat of American interest in the Middle East.

They better not have put their enrichment facility near a world heritage site.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Iran has stated that they will now stop adhering to the last bit of the nuclear agreement of 2015 and will restart unlimited uranium enrichment. They had kept the agreement for a year after Trump had decided to end it and had started some non-agreement enrichment again in May, but will now do it unlimited and with higher purity.

Trump's legacy will be a nuclear armed Iran. An utter strategic defeat of American interest in the Middle East.

They better not have put their enrichment facility near a world heritage site.

on the other hand we might very well see the creation of new world heritage sites...

[OttoVonBismarck]

Although the Iranians still went on to say they would abide by the original agreement if sanctions were lifted, and while they said they had ended their formal treaty obligations they had no immediate plans to significantly increase nuclearization, just the "right to do so" at any time they please.