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Started by Barrister, November 13, 2019, 12:54:52 AM

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Syt

Picked up Clone Wars where I last left off, watching Landing at Point Rain and The Weapons Factory from Season 2.

Following after the (IMO very, very good) Ep. 5 of The Acolyte (Manny Jacinto :wub: ) it was a definite mood whiplash, though.

And tbh, after watching later Clone Wars seasons and The Bad Batch, it feels really, really weird to see clones get casually killed in battle and then see Anakin and Ahsoka have some "comedic" bickering while you still see clone corpses lying in the background. I think they might not go for that kind of tone any more these days. :lol:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Grey Fox

Early Clone Wars, when watch nowadays, always feels to me like "we've made these assets and we're going to use them!".
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

crazy canuck

So the Jedi master who can essentially read minds can't tell one twin from the other. Is there anyone in charge of script continuity in the Star Wars universe?

Sophie Scholl

Yoda and every other Jedi couldn't detect Palpatine was Sith. Your complaints are laughable and have seemingly been all parroted Fandom Menace ones. Not a good look.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Syt

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2024, 08:33:11 PMSo the Jedi master who can essentially read minds can't tell one twin from the other. Is there anyone in charge of script continuity in the Star Wars universe?

Besides Sophie's comment, he's still in utter shock and seriously unbalanced after what happened to his fellow Jedi, so he "sees what he wants to see" to quote Mae from this episode. Osha is his only emotional anchor at this point that he clings to, regardless of whether any suspicions/weird signals he might get. If anything, he might put it down to the traumatic event they both just went through.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

Btw, this is, I think, the first time Star Wars was shot in a place I actually have been to - today's scenes on "UNKNOWN PLANET" were shot in Porto Moniz on Madeira, where they have those volcanic "swimming pools" on the north tip of the island (been there during a day's excursion). :) (And the coast is very Madeira, obiously.) And they've used drone footage for other locations (adding in e.g. buildings in post).
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

celedhring

Quote from: Syt on July 03, 2024, 01:30:50 AMBtw, this is, I think, the first time Star Wars was shot in a place I actually have been to - today's scenes on "UNKNOWN PLANET" were shot in Porto Moniz on Madeira, where they have those volcanic "swimming pools" on the north tip of the island (been there during a day's excursion). :) (And the coast is very Madeira, obiously.) And they've used drone footage for other locations (adding in e.g. buildings in post).

Okay, this is a fun game. I don't think I've been to that many either. Just stuff shot in Spain.

- Theed (Plaza de España in Seville)
- Some barren planet in Solo (Jandía Natural Park in the Canary Islands)

celedhring

Also force power continuity was a casualty loooong time ago in the Star Wars universe. It does annoy me but certainly won't single out this show in particular.

Syt

#2288
Oh, didn't know they shot Solo on Fuerteventura. I've been to that beach, actually; I vacationed many moons ago in Jandia. :)
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

celedhring

Disney applied to shot in Fuerteventura again this year. Most people believe it's another Star Wars thing.

Syt

Maybe Niamos gets upgraded from British seaside to Canary Islands. :P

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Niamos

Hopefully with more Star Wars vacation music.  :cool:

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on July 02, 2024, 11:38:13 PMYoda and every other Jedi couldn't detect Palpatine was Sith. Your complaints are laughable and have seemingly been all parroted Fandom Menace ones. Not a good look.

I am not sure if you have had an opportunity to watch any of the episodes.  If you have I remind you that it was just one episode ago that the Sith refused to remove his helmet because he did not want to allow the Jedi Master to sense his thoughts.  And it was in this last episode that the Sith explained to this new acolyte that one of the benefits of the helmet is that it prevents the sensing of thoughts.

And yet the show had a clumsy plot devise which depended on the Jedi with remarkable powers for sensing thoughts to have no ability to do so.

I say sloppy, because he was told he had the wrong twin shortly afterward anyway.  So what was the point of showing he could not tell the difference?

This has nothing to do with parroting Menace fandom, I don't even know what that means.  This is simply a comment on how inconsistent the writing is in this particular series.





crazy canuck

Quote from: Syt on July 03, 2024, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 02, 2024, 08:33:11 PMSo the Jedi master who can essentially read minds can't tell one twin from the other. Is there anyone in charge of script continuity in the Star Wars universe?

Besides Sophie's comment, he's still in utter shock and seriously unbalanced after what happened to his fellow Jedi, so he "sees what he wants to see" to quote Mae from this episode. Osha is his only emotional anchor at this point that he clings to, regardless of whether any suspicions/weird signals he might get. If anything, he might put it down to the traumatic event they both just went through.

He is a Jedi Master and in the first episodes he himself explains how important balance and controlling one's emotions are. 

The writers seemed to forget all that when, as you say, he became seriously unbalance.

The Star Wars universe creates a group with super powers but can only tell stories which depend on those powers failing.

I suppose that is what made Andor so great.  No Jedi.

Syt

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2024, 05:28:54 AMHe is a Jedi Master and in the first episodes he himself explains how important balance and controlling one's emotions are. 

The writers seemed to forget all that when, as you say, he became seriously unbalance.

What people preach and what they do don't always align, though. People strive to be good people, to do the right thing, but it's often hard, and people take shortcuts, or make mistake, or think they're doing the right thing and it makes it only worse.

One of the biggest flaws of the Jedi in the Prequel Era was their rejection of deep emotional connections, emotions, etc. Like Jecki saying that it's an honor to be in the presence of a being returning to the Force (which was mighty creepy, and rather unfortunate, because there was a lot of honor later ... ).

Sol has clearly been struggling with major trauma and guilt due to whatever happened in the past and it's all bubbling back up. And his fellow Jedi didn't do much better - the Wookiee Jedi went into isolation, repeatedly drawing Mae's tattoo in his home. One of them went into a vow of silence. Sol and Indara seem to have been the only ones to recreate a veneer of normality. We don't know much about Indara, but Sol has been slipping since the first episode, when one of the Jedi students saw a vision of fire, likely coming from Sol when he was reminded of the past. Whatever happened in the past broke these Jedi or burdened them with almost unmanageable pain that they chose to hide from everyone. And Sol has been pretty unstable from the word go with this, insisting he's put onto the task, though he is clearly emotionally affected by the past being brought back up again.

And it's what Qimir seems to aim for - how to destroy them without a weapon, how to break them, how to expose them for all to see them in the way he sees them.

The Jedi and Sith have supernatural powers, but at the end of the day they're fallible humans.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

crazy canuck

And that is the very problem with the Star Wars universe.  Jedi are not just preaching, they are supposed to actual have the ability to do what they preach. They are not merely human.  They have transcended being merely human.  At the beginning of the show Sol has extraordinary powers to read minds.  But the Jedi powers and discipline always fail in the Star Wars stories.