The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

[Monoriu]

Trump's lawyer is so unbelievably bad that he may have a legitimate claim that he is doing stand-up comedy instead of serious legal work 

[Razgovory]

There is a lesson here:  Pay your lawyers in a timely fashion.  Do not try to swindle them.

[The Minsky Moment]

There is a lesson here:  Pay your lawyers in a timely fashion.  Do not try to swindle them.

Raz may say he's crazy but it is pearls of wisdom like this that make him the true voice of reason of logic on languish.

[Eddie Teach]

You don't need good lawyers if you can extort the jury.

[Admiral Yi]

Did the Democrats even mention the Georgia phone call?

[jimmy olsen]

So profoundly unethical

[The Minsky Moment]

There are no rules in impeachment except the ones the Senators make up for themselves so ethics really isn't the issue.

I get the attraction of being a US Senator from the great state of Texas, but if the cost is the repeated humiliation of having to rush when summoned by master and lick his hand after he has repeatedly mocked and degraded you and your family, is it really worth paying?  Just tell him to F off and go back into private practice with some sense of dignity intact if it costs you an election.

Graham is a different story - he's got some kind of weird masochistic kink going on with Trump.

[The Larch]

Did the Democrats even mention the Georgia phone call?

IIRC that's being investigated in a separate case in criminal court in Georgia, and was not part of the impeachment process.

[DGuller]

I really think that taunting is one of the intentions here.  Just like with Putin jailing Navalny for being too comatose to comply with parole terms, the intention is to poke people in the eye just to show how they can get away with it.

[Sheilbh]

There are no rules in impeachment except the ones the Senators make up for themselves so ethics really isn't the issue.

Surely ethics are precisely the issue when there are no rules?

Obviously if they were even attempting to appear as impartial jurors they wouldn't do this. Flipside, I don't think they'd do this if they didn't think this is going badly because it's very obvious.

I get the attraction of being a US Senator from the great state of Texas, but if the cost is the repeated humiliation of having to rush when summoned by master and lick his hand after he has repeatedly mocked and degraded you and your family, is it really worth paying?  Just tell him to F off and go back into private practice with some sense of dignity intact if it costs you an election.

Yes. Again, they're just so craven.

[Admiral Yi]

IIRC that's being investigated in a separate case in criminal court in Georgia, and was not part of the impeachment process.

Big mistake IMO. 

[The Minsky Moment]

Surely ethics are precisely the issue when there are no rules?

Obviously if they were even attempting to appear as impartial jurors they wouldn't do this.

The whole point is to appear partial.  To appease the Palm Beach Fuehrer and his paramilitary No Shirts.

[Sheilbh]

IIRC that's being investigated in a separate case in criminal court in Georgia, and was not part of the impeachment process.

Big mistake IMO.

But how is it linked to the January 6 events?

And do you think it would make any difference to the result?

[Admiral Yi]

But how is it linked to the January 6 events?

It's not.  So what?

And do you think it would make any difference to the result?

Probably not.  But I think the riot is easier to defend, since (AFAIK) Trump never said "go and kill some cops and zip tie Nancy Pelosi."

[The Minsky Moment]

They could have charged a conspiracy to subvert the constitution and seize power.  That's the link.  The reason he wanted to disrupt the Jan 6 certification was to buy more time to intimidate states into changing the numbers.  The impeachment managers already used half that evidence in admitting the Rudy-Tuberville communications.  The other half would be the state level arm twists.