The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

[Admiral Yi]

I think Epstein might have been railroaded.  The accusations were essentially a shakedown.

[Eddie Teach]

"Epstein didn't kill himself"?

[grumbler]

I think Epstein might have been railroaded.  The accusations were essentially a shakedown.

Any reason why you think that, or is this just conspiracy thinking?

[DGuller]

"Epstein didn't kill himself"?

BTW, WTF is up with that?  Surely there is a campaign organized somewhere to send trolls all over the Internet to paste that everywhere, but who's behind that?

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmf2PodFgi4&t=412s

Dershowitz on CNN explaining his limited impeachment role.

He has laid out his argument before.  What I found interesting is that he appears to be preparing, and has been engaged to, be a witness, which suggests the trial will not be a simple slam bam thank you ma'am dismissal vote.

[Razgovory]

So apparently there is some unknown Belgian involved in all this.  Or at least someone using a Belgian phone number.  Who ever it is was providing information on the Ambassador and claims that "We have someone on the inside".  So there are some more players involved.  This Republican Congressional candidate is fucked, he may have committed a crime and he's about to find out that  Trump's loyalty goes only one way.  Also, when was David Nunes going to tell us about his connections to these crooks?

[garbon]

I mean that guy is fundraising off this.

He sounds like a mess / running in a district regularly returning a Democrat. His state party has asked him to give up his campaign.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/who-robert-hyde-latest-character-trump-impeachment-scandal-has-wild-n1116656

[Admiral Yi]

Colorful guy

[The Brain]

"Epstein didn't kill himself"?

BTW, WTF is up with that?  Surely there is a campaign organized somewhere to send trolls all over the Internet to paste that everywhere, but who's behind that?

Maybe Epstein, if he is still alive like they claim?

[Zoupa]

I think Epstein might have been railroaded.  The accusations were essentially a shakedown.

I don't get what you're saying. Explain railroaded and shakedown please.

[Eddie Teach]

"Epstein didn't kill himself"?

BTW, WTF is up with that?  Surely there is a campaign organized somewhere to send trolls all over the Internet to paste that everywhere, but who's behind that?

Maybe Epstein, if he is still alive like they claim?

The claim is that he was murdered.

[The Brain]

"Epstein didn't kill himself"?

BTW, WTF is up with that?  Surely there is a campaign organized somewhere to send trolls all over the Internet to paste that everywhere, but who's behind that?

Maybe Epstein, if he is still alive like they claim?

The claim is that he was murdered.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't get what you're saying. Explain railroaded and shakedown please.

The shakedown is the civil suit against first Epstein's, and later his estate.

Epstein liked banging pretty young girls, and he thought providing pretty young girls to clients and hangers on would help his business dealings.  AFAICT the girls participated willingly.  Still, he was technically in violation of prostitution and trafficking laws, not because he drugged them and held them down screaming while they were ass raped by Prince Andrew, but because the girls had crossed state and international borders.

So the lead plaintiff and a tort attorney get together and change the narrative from sleazy businessman pays young girls for sex to predation and sexual abuse, which resonates in the #MeToo environment.  The media is happy to buy into this narrative. Epstein's Florida plea now looks like an old boy corrupt deal so he's recharged.

[Zoupa]

I thought the main argument was that the girls were underage, ergo "willingly participating" is irrelevant. No?

[Zoupa]

I mean his first arrest was about a 14 year old girl. He pleaded guilty.

He served almost 13 months in custody, but with extensive work release. He was convicted of only these two crimes as part of a plea deal; federal officials had in fact identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had sexually abused.