The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

[dps]

This is also extremely standard.  The Democratic toadies did it for Clinton, and the Republican toadies did it for Nixon.  Toadies are going to toady; they can't help it.

Do you not see anything different at all from these varying circumstances?

I see differences--Nixon's toadies lost, Clinton's toadies won, and we don't know yet about Trump's toadies.

[Valmy]

The whole Clinton situation was a shitshow. I wish he had done the decent thing and resigned.

[Habbaku]

Yeah we always hear about how bad it is to use Constitutional methods to check the power of the executive because it is trying to cancel an election and is anti-democratic. I guess because Congress isn't elected or anything? I never understood that logic.

Then, in the same breath, the Republicans will loudly screech the "Republic not a Democracy" line. And support the Electoral College. And...

[Syt]

[Valmy]

I did not realize the United State Constitution was something Soviet-style.

[Oexmelin]

When did US Congressmen began using these stupid props?

[Valmy]

When did US Congressmen began using these stupid props?

I know McCarthy did so they have for awhile.

[Razgovory]

This is also extremely standard.  The Democratic toadies did it for Clinton, and the Republican toadies did it for Nixon.  Toadies are going to toady; they can't help it.

Do you not see anything different at all from these varying circumstances?

Of course not.  The ability to see differences is an innately partisan act.

[11B4V]

This will be a shit show.

[Razgovory]

This will be a shit show.

Yes it will be, and I think that it will guarantee Trump's reelection.  I also don't think there is any other choice.  Trump went way over the line on this one.  We make a stand here, or we never make a stand.

[grumbler]

This is also extremely standard.  The Democratic toadies did it for Clinton, and the Republican toadies did it for Nixon.  Toadies are going to toady; they can't help it.

Do you not see anything different at all from these varying circumstances?

Not in terms of the toadies toadying, no.  I see a huge difference in the degree to which the President deserves to be impeached.  The current president is borderline psychotic, and far more dangerous than any previous president.  But the latter isn't what I was responding to.  What I was responding to was the pretense that toadies were suddenly toadying over impeachment when they hadn't in the past.

[11B4V]

This will be a shit show.

Yes it will be, and I think that it will guarantee Trump's reelection.  I also don't think there is any other choice.  Trump went way over the line on this one.  We make a stand here, or we never make a stand.

I agree

[Eddie Teach]

I agree too, except with the part that his reelection is guaranteed.

[grumbler]

This is also extremely standard.  The Democratic toadies did it for Clinton, and the Republican toadies did it for Nixon.  Toadies are going to toady; they can't help it.

The question in my mind is whether such rhetoric will have a different effect on impressionable minds this time around.

It is certainly possible.  The rhetoric gets downloaded directly into fanatical brains now,when it used to be at least somewhat filtered by the news media.  But that's been the standard for years now.  Remember when Trump wrote his own doctor's report and claimed both that 'all of the tests came back positive" (i.e. that he had every disease and ailment under the sun) and that he was 'the most physically fit candidate for President in history?"  The toadies and impressionable minds all ate that shit like it was ice cream.

[grumbler]

I did not realize the United State Constitution was something Soviet-style.

The Soviets had a constitution and it allowed impeachment.  Most constitutions do.  Most Republican representatives are probably too stupid to realize that, though.