Who should the democrats pick to run against Trump

[Razgovory]

Yes, it's a place to start, not Incel 101. I'll let you research the dark web for incel chat rooms, or scour comments on Jordan Peterson's pages, or hunt around for angry white male twitter accounts, or discussions of Gamersgate. It comes up frequently. Count your blessings if you haven't been exposed to it.

Ugh.  Reading what those weirdo write is both horrifying and depressing.  I'm not a ladies man by any stretch, but I didn't blame women for that.  It's because I'm an obnoxious know-it-all, and I'm okay with that.  I am a recluse, but that's because I had a nervous breakdown.

[Josquius]

Those incels that don't overlap with the alt right don't overlap with any politics. Though with what I know of incels these people are small in number. Their entire schtick is rage with the system thats denying them a chance of getting laid.

I've seen nothing about any "system."  You're projecting your own Marxism. I've seen plenty of rage about hotties that don't bang them and dudes who do get laid.

Marxism?

Look closer at what they say. It's all very systemised. Not just random chance. They've drawn the genetic short straw which means the alpha men with good bone structure will get all the women, even the ones they don't want. Why it the system was fair the 5s would be with the 5s but women are wired to always look above themselves, etc...

[Admiral Yi]

Marxism?

Look closer at what they say. It's all very systemised. Not just random chance. They've drawn the genetic short straw which means the alpha men with good bone structure will get all the women, even the ones they don't want. Why it the system was fair the 5s would be with the 5s but women are wired to always look above themselves, etc...

The Marxism thing was semi-joking.

A system means planning, organization, structure.  Chicks preferring hott, rich guys is not a system.  It's a preference.

[Grinning_Colossus]

Chicks preferring rich guys is a consequence of our political economy--the system. Chicks preferring hot guys is due to nature, red in tooth and claw. 

[frunk]

Chicks preferring hot guys is due to nature, red in tooth and claw. 

And what kind of chicks do guys prefer?

[Grinning_Colossus]

The kind with symmetrical faces, neotenous features and yet wide, childbreading hips. Nature remains ever red in tooth and claw.

[The Brain]

Chicks preferring hot guys is due to nature, red in tooth and claw. 

And what kind of chicks do guys prefer?

The original.

[frunk]

The kind with symmetrical faces, neotenous features and yet wide, childbreading hips. Nature remains ever red in tooth and claw.

Well, I'm not sure there's an equivalent to the Incel movement among women.  Sure there are some man hating groups but nothing so virulent or widespread.

[dps]

Well, I'm not sure there's an equivalent to the Incel movement among women. 

That's because a woman who wants to get laid can almost always find a willing guy, which is why hookers are way more common than gigolos.  Though given the existence of prostitution, I'd argue than no one is truly involuntarily celibate (barring guys who are impotent and for whom Viagra or other drugs don't work).

[FunkMonk]

Incels are huge losers who wish Fight Club was real. They're laughable when they're not stalking women and trying to ruin their lives. Then they need to be thrown in jail.

[derspiess]

Because he says he's not and he clashes with alt-right types that hate him.  And he's gay, married to a black man, and claims Jewish roots.

IMO an acceptable term would be "alt-lite".

Nobody is Alt-Right according to Derspeiss.  He just sang karoke with Nazis and reached out to them about stuff he was writing for Breitbart.  Just like any normal person would have.

I never did that!!

[FunkMonk]

Having known no incels in real life, take this with a massive grain of salt, but I think their problem is less about sex and more about having utterly no confidence, feeling sorry for themselves as a result (to the point of derangement), and then blaming the world (but primarily women) for their problems.

Does anyone actually know an incel in real life?

[Threviel]

Well, I'm not sure there's an equivalent to the Incel movement among women. 

That's because a woman who wants to get laid can almost always find a willing guy, which is why hookers are way more common than gigolos.  Though given the existence of prostitution, I'd argue than no one is truly involuntarily celibate (barring guys who are impotent and for whom Viagra or other drugs don't work).

Well, I once read an article about a guy with som handicap, don't remember what. He really wanted to have sex and failed constantly, so in the end he went to a prostitute that turned him away on account of his handicap. Sad story that one. Rather unique also.

And aren't most prostitutes males geared towards male customers?

[Tamas]

Having known no incels in real life, take this with a massive grain of salt, but I think their problem is less about sex and more about having utterly no confidence, feeling sorry for themselves as a result (to the point of derangement), and then blaming the world (but primarily women) for their problems.

Does anyone actually know an incel in real life?

No. But I think there's a massive overlap between the active online alt-right trolls and incels. Especially if you look at their general wordlview and not their self-declared labels. There seem to be far more losers blaming their lack of success with women on women and society, than people actually calling themselves incels. And at least 90% of them are far-right assholes. The rest are far-left.

[derspiess]

I didn't know "incel" was a thing until about a month ago.  Can't get my mind around why someone would voluntarily adopt that label, let alone turn it into a movement of some sort.  Maybe put that time & energy into correcting your situation?