Who should the democrats pick to run against Trump

[derspiess]

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/normie

normie
NOUN
informal
An ordinary or conventional person, as distinguished from someone who is a member of a particular group or subculture.

'I need a guide for geeks struggling to buy presents for normies'
'the venue had a 'no blue jeans' policy to keep out normies'

Raz sees the alt-right everywhere.

[crazy canuck]

It's also used by incels.

Aren't Incels part of the alt right?

[Barrister]

It's also used by incels.

Aren't Incels part of the alt right?

Not necessarily, but there obviously is some overlap.

[Eddie Teach]

They don't have a common ideology.

[Josquius]

They usually do. The whole hate for women thing tends to lead to ideologies that hate women.
And then there's the "Foreigners stealing our women!" trope.

[Barrister]

They usually do. The whole hate for women thing tends to lead to ideologies that hate women.
And then there's the "Foreigners stealing our women!" trope.

Take Milo (please!).  He's clearly alt-right, but obviously not an incel.

Or the manifestos of incel killers really make zero reference to other races.

[Valmy]

The alt-right has many different aggrieved groups. The incels just have different people they have grievances towards. Female-type people.

[crazy canuck]

They usually do. The whole hate for women thing tends to lead to ideologies that hate women.
And then there's the "Foreigners stealing our women!" trope.

Take Milo (please!).  He's clearly alt-right, but obviously not an incel.

Are you really claiming that the alt-right is defined by Milo so that unless a group has something in common with him they cannot possibly be alt-right?

[Admiral Yi]

Just learned that ex Colorado gov Hickenlooper is running.

[Barrister]

They usually do. The whole hate for women thing tends to lead to ideologies that hate women.
And then there's the "Foreigners stealing our women!" trope.

Take Milo (please!).  He's clearly alt-right, but obviously not an incel.

Are you really claiming that the alt-right is defined by Milo so that unless a group has something in common with him they cannot possibly be alt-right?

No.

I said that the alt-right and incels are different, but with some overlap.  An overlapping venn diagram if you will.  I pointed to Milo as an example of  an alt-right person who is obviously not an incel, given his flamboyant homosexuality.

[Valmy]

Meh it is all two complicated. Incels are kind of a sad group so I don't blame the Alt-Right for not wanting to claim them.

[Josquius]

They usually do. The whole hate for women thing tends to lead to ideologies that hate women.
And then there's the "Foreigners stealing our women!" trope.

Take Milo (please!).  He's clearly alt-right, but obviously not an incel.

Or the manifestos of incel killers really make zero reference to other races.

An apple is a fruit. Not all fruit are apples.

Those incels that don't overlap with the alt right don't overlap with any politics. Though with what I know of incels these people are small in number. Their entire schtick is rage with the system thats denying them a chance of getting laid.

[derspiess]

Milo is not alt-right.

[Admiral Yi]

Those incels that don't overlap with the alt right don't overlap with any politics. Though with what I know of incels these people are small in number. Their entire schtick is rage with the system thats denying them a chance of getting laid.

I've seen nothing about any "system."  You're projecting your own Marxism. I've seen plenty of rage about hotties that don't bang them and dudes who do get laid.

[Valmy]

Milo is not alt-right.

I can see why they wouldn't want him either.