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Started by Josquius, February 22, 2019, 02:52:04 PM

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In which order did you experience Dune?

Book > Live action > Games
1 (2.2%)
Live action> Book > Games
4 (8.9%)
Book > Games > Live action
4 (8.9%)
Book > Live action> Games
2 (4.4%)
Games > Book > Live action
2 (4.4%)
Games > Live action > Book
8 (17.8%)
Book > Games
3 (6.7%)
Games > Book
0 (0%)
Games > Live action
0 (0%)
Live action > Games
2 (4.4%)
Book > Live action
4 (8.9%)
Live action > Book
3 (6.7%)
Just book
7 (15.6%)
Just games
0 (0%)
Just live action
3 (6.7%)
NOTHING. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING DUNE RELATED
2 (4.4%)

Total Members Voted: 45

Caliga

Watched Dune over the weekend and I loved it.  Even my wife liked it and she hates a) science fiction generally, and b) violent movies.
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Agelastus

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
The Geidi Prime scene although contrary to book canon (no outsiders allowed) tells you everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without a word of exposition.

I've not seen the film but this line reads as if the scene should be on Salusa Secundus, the Sardaukar "home planet"?
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Tamas

[spoiler]I can't remember if it was in the book that Paul had visions about that black guy to be his mentor, then ending up having to kill him. I found it a very elegant explanation how he is given choices over the fate of his own and others' despite those visions[/spoiler]

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Agelastus on November 09, 2021, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
The Geidi Prime scene although contrary to book canon (no outsiders allowed) tells you everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without a word of exposition.

I've not seen the film but this line reads as if the scene should be on Salusa Secundus, the Sardaukar "home planet"?

Correct, thanks. I confused the two.  It's been a while. Corrected the post.
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celedhring

The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Berkut

Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Its the kind of thing that makes me realize how bad I would be at making a movie. My movies would all be 8 hours long and people would hang themselves from boredom.
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HVC

there's probably a market for that amount the truly snobby film lover group.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Agreed.  I loved that scene.

Habbaku

I think my favorite part of the Salusa Secundus scene was how ignorant of affairs the Sardaukar commander seemed to be. "You outnumber them, what's the problem?" is precisely the kind of question I imagine an arrogant, undefeated death-force would ask.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AMSome niggling issues including some bad displays of water discipline (we've learned IRL how tricky mask usage can be . . .) but the only thing that bothered me were the ending scenes. It does end on a note of triumphalism which I think does play into the anachronistic "woke" critiques.  The funeral scene from the book does not occur here - perhaps it is being saved for the next part, but room should have been found to put it at the end of this part.  Paul's appeal to the Fremen is not that he is an effective fighter - that is a necessary but far from sufficient condition.  It is his spiritual authority - and that should have been the closing note.
I think the major niggling issue is the phrase "desert power" <_< :lol:
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: HVC on November 09, 2021, 12:21:15 PM
there's probably a market for that amount the truly snobby film lover group.

Anybody with a camcorder can take eight hours of film, and many do.
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Richard Hakluyt

I found myself wondering what the experience was like for people who have not read the book; there were explanations for everything but some of them were rather swift.

Looking forward to part 2, which they have not even started filming yet, the release date being oct23.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 09, 2021, 05:03:03 PM
I think the major niggling issue is the phrase "desert power" <_< :lol:

Well to be fair it's Herbert's phrase from the novel.  But it certainly conveys a whiff of Cheney/Rumsfeld c 2002.
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Tamas

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 10, 2021, 02:00:06 AM
I found myself wondering what the experience was like for people who have not read the book; there were explanations for everything but some of them were rather swift.

Looking forward to part 2, which they have not even started filming yet, the release date being oct23.

I had the same thought/concern. According to my wife who never read the books (but likes the Lynch movie, visuals at least), it was fine and there was a reasonable amount of explaining going on.

Josephus

I read the first book in the series. Then saw the Lynch film.
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