About those peaceful antifa protests...

[Jacob]

Yeah, don't fucking lump me in with your lot.

Agreed.

[garbon]

Well it sure is interesting how Berk has turned my post into meaning that white people should always big ignored on matters of race.

[grumbler]

Well it sure is interesting how Berk has turned my post into meaning that white people should always big ignored on matters of race.

A near-perfect strawman argument.  Thanks for the example.  I can use this in my classroom.

[garbon]

Well it sure is interesting how Berk has turned my post into meaning that white people should always big ignored on matters of race.

A near-perfect strawman argument.  Thanks for the example.  I can use this in my classroom.

Well it was in response to this wildly off the mark mischaracterization:

Garbon told us that we should ignore Del's position because he is a white person, and that was not a joke, or a troll, or a snarky response. It was a completely serious response to a serious discussion.

[grumbler]

Well it was in response to this wildly off the mark mischaracterization:

Garbon told us that we should ignore Del's position because he is a white person, and that was not a joke, or a troll, or a snarky response. It was a completely serious response to a serious discussion.

If Berkut's interpretation of "white whine" as your sole response to a lengthy Del post was not what you intended, you communicated your more complex point poorly.  Perhaps two words (one of them racist) isn't enough?  If Berkut was "wildly off the mark," you have only yourself to blame.

[garbon]

Not really. After all, he's the one who decided to decide on a flawed interpretation and then post at length about it. Can't really blame myself for the time and energy he decided to expend.

[Ed Anger]

What is more interesting than me calling him out on comments that are clearly racist, is that you give him a complete pass on it. It isn't even worthy of comment from you that he accused someone of having views determined by their race.

On this:

Given the amount of racist trolling and just-having-a-laugh posting that happens on languish when CdM, derspiess, Ed, and others get into their various schticks, I do not rate garbon's "*white whine*" as particularly noteworthy, no. Off-handed trolling dismissals of viewpoints you disagree with - or viewpoints you agree with but which suggest an opening - are pretty par for the course here IMO, including ones that are implicitly or explicitly racist.

Then again, you getting your knickers in a twist over something fairly trivial and going all "Berkut Indignation Level: Throbbing Purple" is par for the course too, but personally I don't find it particularly interesting.

About time my greatness is acknowledged.

[grumbler]

Not really. After all, he's the one who decided to decide on a flawed interpretation and then post at length about it. Can't really blame myself for the time and energy he decided to expend.

True.  But you are to blame for sounding exactly like a racist, no matter how much or little time Berkut expended pointing it out.

[garbon]

Not really. After all, he's the one who decided to decide on a flawed interpretation and then post at length about it. Can't really blame myself for the time and energy he decided to expend.

True.  But you are to blame for sounding exactly like a racist, no matter how much or little time Berkut expended pointing it out.

People are free to draw the wrong conclusions.

[grumbler]

People are free to draw the wrong conclusions.

And you are free to remain in denial. 

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Razgovory]

Who's Del?

[Valmy]

Who's Del?

Delirium who posted on this race stuff in another thread I think.

[HVC]

Who's Del?

The guy garbon racially abused. what happened to your languish encyclopedia? I thought you kept all this stuff documented

[DGuller]

Not really. After all, he's the one who decided to decide on a flawed interpretation and then post at length about it. Can't really blame myself for the time and energy he decided to expend.

True.  But you are to blame for sounding exactly like a racist, no matter how much or little time Berkut expended pointing it out.

Context matters.  This wasn't garbon's first post on this forum, a little latitude in the interpretation is called for when it runs counter to all prior positing history. 

Berkut's very first first reply, when he decided to go "THAT'S RACIST!!!  " instead of "this really did not come off well, did you really mean it that way" made it all about him from that point on.

[Eddie Teach]

Garbon has been oppressing us for 14 years, about time it got recognized.