Trains, Banks and Public/Private Ownership - Prev.Predict UK Gen.Election Result

Started by mongers, June 04, 2017, 05:18:02 PM

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What will be the size of Theresa May's majority in the Commons

150+ MPs
0 (0%)
101-149
0 (0%)
81-100
2 (5.9%)
51-80
4 (11.8%)
31-50
6 (17.6%)
16-30
5 (14.7%)
1-15
2 (5.9%)
Zero - (Even number of MPs)
1 (2.9%)
Minority conservative government
9 (26.5%)
Labour and other parties coalition
2 (5.9%)
Labour majority government
3 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 33

The Larch

It seems that May intends to go on as PM. I sincerely can't see how she'll manage after such a blunder, her reputation must be shattered.

Maladict

Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2017, 04:58:20 AM
Hopefully this means the Swiss (free movement of people though customs controls)  or Norwegian path is open to us.

You mean if the EU chooses to consider that option at all?

The Larch

Quote from: Maladict on June 09, 2017, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2017, 04:58:20 AM
Hopefully this means the Swiss (free movement of people though customs controls)  or Norwegian path is open to us.

You mean if the EU chooses to consider that option at all?

I don't think that May will have much choice about it, she'll have to soften her position on Brexit, as an open border will be THE demand that DUP will extract from her. Thus, some level of free movement of people will be inevitable for her to accept.

Tamas

I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

garbon

Quote from: The Larch on June 09, 2017, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 09, 2017, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2017, 04:58:20 AM
Hopefully this means the Swiss (free movement of people though customs controls)  or Norwegian path is open to us.

You mean if the EU chooses to consider that option at all?

I don't think that May will have much choice about it, she'll have to soften her position on Brexit, as an open border will be THE demand that DUP will extract from her. Thus, some level of free movement of people will be inevitable for her to accept.

Was May ever publicly for a hard border in Ireland?

At any rate, I don't see how the UK avoids hard brexit. With the government in disarray, what's the chance of any deal being managed? Seems like we are heading for default separation.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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garbon

Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Larch

Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

It totally is. They specifically want to avoid a hard border with the Republic of Ireland. Remember that Remain won in Northern Ireland, after all.

The Larch

Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Tamas' default position on anything is "cynical suspicion".  :P

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Yes but, I talk to other people.

Tamas

Quote from: The Larch on June 09, 2017, 05:31:53 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Tamas' default position on anything is "cynical suspicion".  :P

I was made to believe by a Briton that DUP would be quite alright with a proper border.

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Yes but, I talk to other people.

You mean you asked other people around you about it in the last hour?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:33:37 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Yes but, I talk to other people.

You mean you asked other people around you about it in the last hour?

why is that shocking?

The Larch

Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:30:19 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 09, 2017, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: Maladict on June 09, 2017, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2017, 04:58:20 AM
Hopefully this means the Swiss (free movement of people though customs controls)  or Norwegian path is open to us.

You mean if the EU chooses to consider that option at all?

I don't think that May will have much choice about it, she'll have to soften her position on Brexit, as an open border will be THE demand that DUP will extract from her. Thus, some level of free movement of people will be inevitable for her to accept.

Was May ever publicly for a hard border in Ireland?

I don't think she's ever given much thought about NI at all, to be frank. In any case, the border agreements between NI and the Republic predate their entrance in the EU, IIRC. What remains to be seen is how they'll work once the UK is out but the Republic remains in the EU.

Agelastus

Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:33:04 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 09, 2017, 05:31:53 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Tamas' default position on anything is "cynical suspicion".  :P

I was made to believe by a Briton that DUP would be quite alright with a proper border.

The DUP support Brexit, but clearly a soft Brexit.

See here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39976319
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garbon

Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:36:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:33:37 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 09, 2017, 05:26:05 AM
I am not convinced the DUP is that keen on the open border thing. Can Brits enlighten us?

Strange that given that just a few minutes ago, you didn't seem to have ever heard of DUP before. ;)

Yes but, I talk to other people.

You mean you asked other people around you about it in the last hour?

why is that shocking?

I was just seeking a clarification. Not being shocked. :P
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.