Globalisation

[grumbler]

I am pretending no such thing. I have had many arguments with Oex in the past and he has never reacted in a snobby or contemptuous way. You, on the other hand, do so about 90% of the time.

  Right.  Like I am the guy making the ad hom attacks.

[CountDeMoney]

grumbler shoots to thrill.

[Valmy]

I am pretending no such thing. I have had many arguments with Oex in the past and he has never reacted in a snobby or contemptuous way. You, on the other hand, do so about 90% of the time.

  Right.  Like I am the guy making the ad hom attacks.

Wow you sure showed me grumbler

Hey you do you.

[Berkut]

Yeah I fundamentally disagree with Berkut's idea that false information is good if it inspires people to be more interested in studying something.

I watched an interview with Leonard Nimoy, and he was talking about how he had once been on a tour of Cape Canaveral and all these NASA engineers were talking to him about various systems like they expected him to know what they were talking about.  He didn't have a fucking clue what they were saying, but they talked to him like he was a peer, and he politely nodded accordingly. Because he was Spock.
To the end of his life, he was constantly receiving letters and notes from fans telling him that Spock was the reason they went into science, engineering, research.  And I don't think anybody would argue that TOS science would be the best base for an entry into the science fair, but there you are.

Star Trek is the worst thing to ever happen to science.

Fiction should probably just be banned, or at least discouraged. If someone cannot be inspired by Apollo 13, then they have no business in higher education.

[Valmy]

Yeah I fundamentally disagree with Berkut's idea that false information is good if it inspires people to be more interested in studying something.

I watched an interview with Leonard Nimoy, and he was talking about how he had once been on a tour of Cape Canaveral and all these NASA engineers were talking to him about various systems like they expected him to know what they were talking about.  He didn't have a fucking clue what they were saying, but they talked to him like he was a peer, and he politely nodded accordingly. Because he was Spock.
To the end of his life, he was constantly receiving letters and notes from fans telling him that Spock was the reason they went into science, engineering, research.  And I don't think anybody would argue that TOS science would be the best base for an entry into the science fair, but there you are.

Star Trek is the worst thing to ever happen to science.

Fiction should probably just be banned, or at least discouraged. If someone cannot be inspired by Apollo 13, then they have no business in higher education.

Star Trek is obviously science fiction. I said pretty clearly that fiction is great. Did anybody read what I actually said? Granted that part of my post what cropped for some reason.

The very fact those engineers thought that actor actually knew something about science shows how powerful the medium is and reinforces my point.

[CountDeMoney]

Sometimes Berkut goes Full Berkut and there are no survivors.

[11B4V]

Star Trek > Babylon 5

[Eddie Teach]

Star Trek > Babylon 5

Star Wars > Battlestar Galactica > Firefly > Star Trek

[Berkut]

Yeah I fundamentally disagree with Berkut's idea that false information is good if it inspires people to be more interested in studying something.

I watched an interview with Leonard Nimoy, and he was talking about how he had once been on a tour of Cape Canaveral and all these NASA engineers were talking to him about various systems like they expected him to know what they were talking about.  He didn't have a fucking clue what they were saying, but they talked to him like he was a peer, and he politely nodded accordingly. Because he was Spock.
To the end of his life, he was constantly receiving letters and notes from fans telling him that Spock was the reason they went into science, engineering, research.  And I don't think anybody would argue that TOS science would be the best base for an entry into the science fair, but there you are.

Star Trek is the worst thing to ever happen to science.

Fiction should probably just be banned, or at least discouraged. If someone cannot be inspired by Apollo 13, then they have no business in higher education.

Star Trek is obviously science fiction. I said pretty clearly that fiction is great. Did anybody read what I actually said? Granted that part of my post what cropped for some reason.

The very fact those engineers thought that actor actually knew something about science shows how powerful the medium is and reinforces my point.

You said that "false information" is bad. And the only kind of "false information" we have been talking about is fiction.

The basic point I am making is that bitching about someone getting excited about anthropology because they read Clan of the Cave Bear and that gave them incorrect ideas about anthropology is fucking stupid. No amount of "false information" makes the basic idea that someone getting excited about science where they would not have otherwise is a good thing, not something to whine about because it means you might have students who walk into class with some incorrect ideas.

This is really simple - my point is this:

A) People don't give a shit about anthropology and could not care less.

B) People care about anthropology so much that they actually decide to take a class on it, and maybe even pursue it as a career, but their interest came from fiction that contained, well, fiction about anthropology.

B is much, much better than A. Even if it means some professors will have to deal with (gasp!) intro students with incorrect ideas.

[11B4V]

Star Trek > Babylon 5

Star Wars > Battlestar Galactica > Firefly > Star Trek

Space Balls < Star Wars < The Expanse < Battlestar Galactica '04> Firefly > Star Trek

[Razgovory]

And that's why Creation Science is good.  It inspires kids to go into Biology.

[Jacob]

  Right.  Like I am the guy making the ad hom attacks.

I know, right? Completely preposterous

[Jacob]

A) People don't give a shit about anthropology and could not care less.

B) People care about anthropology so much that they actually decide to take a class on it, and maybe even pursue it as a career, but their interest came from fiction that contained, well, fiction about anthropology.

B is much, much better than A. Even if it means some professors will have to deal with (gasp!) intro students with incorrect ideas.

Or...

C) People care so much about about Clan of the Cave Bear that they'll bastardized anthropology to support their pet theories and spread their crank theories with a veneer of science acquired in a couple of classes. You know, much like most creationism and other Christian "science".

[Admiral Yi]

How many pages have you guys been talking about Clan of the Cave Bear and anthropology?  Asking for a friend.

[11B4V]

How many pages have you guys been talking about Clan of the Cave Bear and anthropology?  Asking for a friend.

"If that's not a lie as I situate on the common, what claim has your friend on our deference?"