Would you give up a second Obama term to avoid a Trump presidency?

[Valmy]

don't worry, derspiess, I hold obama in very high regard

Really?

Huh. Well he does give a good speech and damn can he run for President. If the skills that help one run for President matched up with the ones that help one be a good President he might have really been the second coming of his hero Abe.

[LaCroix]

yes, really. despite the old bureaucrats criticizing his slowness, I think he's been mostly fine in foreign affairs. then there's national healthcare, which was a huge undertaking, etc.

[grumbler]

no, but it's a fact that hillary would have been much harsher on russia than trump. trump really hasn't ever said anything about russia, because he (edit - probably) likes russia.

What planet do you live on that has ignored all that Trump has said favorably about Russia and Putin?

[LaCroix]

missed a "bad" there

[frunk]

you can have all your points and leave it at "trump really likes russia, and that's horrifying." some are going to these extremes of calling him an agent, and that's where it gets a bit silly given the insufficient evidence

I've never been serious about Trump being an agent, I don't think there's any percentage in such an arrangement for either party.  Putin disliked Clinton and liked Trump.  Trump hated Obama and anything he did, plus he likes authoritarianism and people with bad taste.  Putin did what he thought he could get away with to give Trump an edge but didn't explicitly conspire with Trump.  If they were actually working together Trump would of been much smarter about handling the whole email hack.

What I find most disturbing is Trump's own penchant for conspiracy theories.  That is so easy to manipulate.