Would you give up a second Obama term to avoid a Trump presidency?

Started by derspiess, January 11, 2017, 12:00:08 PM

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Which scenario is less bad?

Romney defeats Obama in 2012 & is re-elected in 2016; no Trump candidacy
31 (67.4%)
Obama defeats Romney in 2012 & Trump defeats Hillary in 2016
5 (10.9%)
Jaron defeats Jaron in 2012, but then Jaron comes back to beat Jaron in 2016
10 (21.7%)

Total Members Voted: 45


alfred russel

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Habbaku

What does he care if his mother has herpes?  He's been out of that womb for at least 50 years, right?
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Josquius

QuoteWhat does this mean in concrete policy terms?
Slow and steady shift away from old industries to new.
Holistic analyses of the broader impact of closing particular sites rather than just a blunt look at the profit and loss statement of the site itself.
Far more major attempts to spread economic development in several centres around the country rather than just London.
Hindsight speaking, but: avoid generational unemployment at all costs.

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2017, 06:16:20 PM
Looks like France might be a more of a real comparison but...

Also odd how the Brexit Remain vote map doesn't really map so well to that.

You mean in the south east outside London?
The issue there is that this is the conservative heartland. The people there were always going to vote brexit for very different reasons to people in the north. They're the ring leaders of brexit.
Scotland of course is an oddity. Its "blame the other" fuckwittery has been directed against the English rather than Europe.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Habbaku on January 12, 2017, 11:48:16 PM
What does he care if his mother has herpes?  He's been out of that womb for at least 50 years, right?

Don't most people care about their mother after they have been born? :unsure:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Phillip V

Remember that we will soon have President Trump in 5 days because of Obama's public humiliation of him almost 5 years ago at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

DGuller

I have to say that this routine is not as funny as it once seemed.

FunkMonk

Quote from: Phillip V on January 15, 2017, 01:15:59 AM
Remember that we will soon have President Trump in 5 days because of Obama's public humiliation of him almost 5 years ago at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

This is a common misconception. Trump ran because the Putin activated his election pee pee protocols.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: FunkMonk on January 15, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on January 15, 2017, 01:15:59 AM
Remember that we will soon have President Trump in 5 days because of Obama's public humiliation of him almost 5 years ago at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

This is a common misconception. Trump ran because the Putin activated his election pee pee protocols.

No wonder he's all about casinos.


FunkMonk

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grumbler

Quote from: FunkMonk on January 15, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
This is a common misconception. Trump ran because the Putin activated his election pee pee protocols.

[TRUMP has a phone to his ear]
Voice: But I have promises to keep
And miles to go before I pee
Remember, Donald.
Miles to go before you pee.

TRUMP (in monotone): And miles to go before I pee.
[End scene]
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Neil

Does the President-Elect have much support around here?  I wouldn't think so. 

It seems to me that the President's second term was fairly unproductive (especially with Congress betting hard on a Republican win in 2016), so perhaps a win by Mr. Romney would be a worthwhile trade.  I'm loathe to reward the bad behavior of the Republicans, but as things worked out, it would probably be the better move.
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derspiess

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