The latest news on Michael Jackson

[Siege]

Monkey Butt scores again.

Asshole.

[jimmy olsen]

Why the fuck do i have to wait till 11 to hear more!

What else you gotta do?

beat it.

Gold

[Jaron]

Why the fuck do i have to wait till 11 to hear more!

What else you gotta do?

beat it.

Gold

Taint!

[Korea]

Why the fuck do i have to wait till 11 to hear more!

What else you gotta do?

beat it.

Gold

I didn't get it until I saw your laughing face. Good joke. 

[Grey Fox]

Hard to believe that the girl is his daughter.
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She isn't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/28/debbie-rowe-michael-is-no_n_222027.html

She also said she lied. Anyway, its his kids. Prince even talks like him.

[jimmy olsen]

The Doctor is guilty.

[Razgovory]

Meh.

[Caliga]

Doctor who?

[The Minsky Moment]

that really isn't news on Michael Jackson.

[fhdz]

The Doctor is guilty.

You too are guilty, Timmay...of THREAD NECROMANCY MOST FOUL.

[Capetan Mihali]

Poor Doc.  I don't think anyone among us could have denied Michael his "milk" (propofol) when he begged for it to find peace in the abyss of dreamless sleep.  He wasn't keeping MJ doped up out of his mind on painkillers or whatever, he was just helping him live out his sad life.

[jimmy olsen]

Poor Doc.  I don't think anyone among us could have denied Michael his "milk" (propofol) when he begged for it to find peace in the abyss of dreamless sleep.  He wasn't keeping MJ doped up out of his mind on painkillers or whatever, he was just helping him live out his sad life.

WTF is this bullshit? It's either a poorly thought troll attempt or just rambling nonsense. 

[Capetan Mihali]

Poor Doc.  I don't think anyone among us could have denied Michael his "milk" (propofol) when he begged for it to find peace in the abyss of dreamless sleep.  He wasn't keeping MJ doped up out of his mind on painkillers or whatever, he was just helping him live out his sad life.

WTF is this bullshit? It's either a poorly thought troll attempt or just rambling nonsense.

I'm completely serious.  You don't think a personal physician for a deeply troubled celebrity develops a close relationship with him, wants to make him happy, and wants to relieve his suffering? 

IIRC, Michael had debilitating insomnia that didn't respond to all the benzos, and thought he needed the propofol to get some sleep.  (By all accounts it worked very well since it is a surgical anesthetic.)  Of course, propofol is not normally administered outside the hospital, but they had apparently been using it with such success that Michael called it his milk and would plead for it to get to sleep.

I think the doc honestly cared for Michael, gave him a dose of meds that they had used many times in the past, and then had him unexpectedly die.

The home propofol administration is more than a little weird, but it is not an addictive drug of abuse that the doc sinisterly pumped MJ full of, or like Elvis's, wildly overprescribed thousands of pills that were clearly being abused. 

Correct me on the facts if I'm mistaken, I haven't really paid much attention since the beginning of the inquest a while ago.

[Capetan Mihali]

Refreshing my memory, it seems to me that the doctor was clearly negligent to some degree.  But without trying to get a sense of California law on this, I don't think he should have been convicted of manslaughter.  Medical board discipline and the inevitable suit by MJ's heirs for medical malpractice/wrongful death seem to fit the scenario.  I think the doc must have been culpably negligent (for administering propofol in the first place) but the scenario was pretty unique:

-- His patient was by all accounts not in robust health and elected for various "unorthodox" medical interventions:

Jackson's chronic inability to sleep was one of many odd details of his life to emerge from the trial, along with such mundane things like his food preferences to strange medical decisions.

Jackson's chef, Kai Chase, told the court that the notoriously thin star had penchants for beet juice and almond milk. He insisted on healthy food for himself and his three children and wanted lunch served at 12:30 p.m. every day.

Through evidence and testimonies, it was also revealed that Jackson received injections of Botox in his armpits and groin and wore a urninary catheter while sleeping.

The autopsy also showed that he had all sorts of early-onset health problems, like osteoarthritis, IIRC.  Maybe one or some of these latent conditions were a factor that the doc couldn't/didn't know about.

-- He seems to have had a close emotional relationship with MJ that may have led him to err on the side of gratifying his friend and relieving his suffering, rather than following responsible protocol.

-- MJ actively demanded the propofol; it wasn't forced on him by a total charlatan.  There was some kind of mutual bargaining going on concerning its administration.

-- The drug in question did not expose MJ to addiction, intoxication, or withdrawals.  It was intended to treat a specific, severe symptom.  Again, compare with the real Dr. Feelgoods of Hollywood writing scripts for celebrities of whatever they want, or the doctors who actively got celebrities hooked on problem drugs.

-- The same combo of benzodiazepines and propofol seems to have been administered frequently in the past without ill effects.  These are not drugs that build up in your system to eventually have fatal consequences: an overdose is a one-time thing.  The doctor might have assumed, if not reasonably but at least understandably, that it would continue to be a safe dose.  His testimony of course is that he was trying to get MJ off of the propofol.

Again, I'm not attempting a cod-legal analysis.  Maybe all this meets the elements of involuntary manslaughter in Calif.  But I find hard to comprehend the fury of Michael Jackson supporters against the doctor who MJ selected and who MJ induced to give him the ultimately fatal drug.

[Eddie Teach]

Doctor who?