CIA: Senate briefed in September on Russian efforts to deliver a Trump victory

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LaCroix

Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 13, 2017, 09:47:35 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 13, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 13, 2017, 09:34:21 PMhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/12/christopher-steelethe-former-british-spy-created-donald-trump/

Which was, BTW, linked in the Trump Presidency thread, making me wonder whether you've been taking the time to actually fact-check your repartee over there if you haven't even been checking the links.

did you edit out this part because the link wasn't in that thread or?

:lol: Nice jumpy trigger finger on the reply, as I almost immediately edited that out for that reason, realizing I found that particular link on Reddit.

like i said the other day, it's not kosher to be a dick when you're wrong  :mad: :P

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Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 13, 2017, 08:39:54 PM

Allegedly, Jeb Bush hired Steele to do oppo research on Trump, and this is what Steele came up with.


I like the idea of low energy jeb crippling Trump just before his inauguration, after jeb had been forgotten as a joke and failure.
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It would be easy to dismiss all the talk of Trump being a Russian asset as the new version of Obama is a Muslim... but damn when you hear Trump criticizing NATO again, encouraging more "Brexits" from the EU, all the close ties in the inner circle and his never wavering compliments about Putin (possibly the only thing Trump hasn't flip-flopped on) it's getting harder to laugh off.

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Quote from: PRC on January 15, 2017, 09:22:18 PM
It would be easy to dismiss all the talk of Trump being a Russian asset as the new version of Obama is a Muslim... but damn when you hear Trump criticizing NATO again, encouraging more "Brexits" from the EU, all the close ties in the inner circle and his never wavering compliments about Putin (possibly the only thing Trump hasn't flip-flopped on) it's getting harder to laugh off.

Obama settled my fears by sending Soldiers and drones to kill thousands of Muslims.

Trump now needs to send Soldiers and drones to kill thousands of Russians.

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Quote from: Phillip V on January 15, 2017, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: PRC on January 15, 2017, 09:22:18 PM
It would be easy to dismiss all the talk of Trump being a Russian asset as the new version of Obama is a Muslim... but damn when you hear Trump criticizing NATO again, encouraging more "Brexits" from the EU, all the close ties in the inner circle and his never wavering compliments about Putin (possibly the only thing Trump hasn't flip-flopped on) it's getting harder to laugh off.

Obama settled my fears by sending Soldiers and drones to kill thousands of Muslims.

Trump now needs to send Soldiers and drones to kill thousands of Russians.

Listen to this man.  He talks plain sense.
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https://www.rt.com/news/373951-putin-trump-attack-protect/

QuoteFake news makers 'worse than prostitutes': Putin slams those behind Trump 'leak'

Russian President Vladimir Putin said he has no grounds to attack or protect US President-elect Donald Trump, since he does not know him personally. He added though that those behind the recent allegations against Trump have "no moral scruples."

"I don't know Mr. Trump personally, I have never met him and don't know what he will do on the international arena. So I have no grounds to attack him or criticize him for anything, or protect him or whatever," Putin said.

Despite the fact that elections in the US are over and ended with a "solid win" for the Republican candidate, an intense political struggle continues in the US, the Russian president observed, adding that there are certain forces that aim "to undermine the legitimacy of the president-elect."

"I have an impression they practiced in Kiev and are ready to organize a Maidan in Washington, just to not let Trump take office
," :blink: Putin said, apparently referring to anti-government protests in the Ukrainian capital in 2014, which resulted in the leadership being ousted.

Those anti-Trump forces in the US also want to "bind hand and foot" the newly-elected leader, Putin added. He said that in this way, they aim to interfere with the domestic and international policies outlined in Trump's presidential campaign.

By doing so, these forces "severely harm US interests," Putin said.

The campaign to discredit the president-elect shows that certain "political elites in the West, including in the US," have "significantly" worsened, according to the Russian president.

"Prostitution is an ugly social phenomenon," he told reporters, adding that people who stand behind "fabrications" being used against Trump "are worse than prostitutes."

"They have no moral scruples," he said.

The Russian leader also called the allegations that Moscow might have blackmail material on the US president-elect "evidently fake."

"When Trump visited Moscow several years ago, he wasn't a political figure. We didn't even know about his political ambitions, he was just a businessman, one of America's richest people. So does someone think that our intelligence services go after each American billionaire? Of course not, :lol: it's complete rubbish," Putin said.

Commenting on reports spread in the Western media accusing Trump of frolicking with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel, the Russian president said he doubted that a man who had been organizing beauty pageants for years and had met "some of the most beautiful women of the world" would hire call girls in the Russian capital.
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Quote from: Berkut on January 17, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
It's nice to see that Putin has Trump's back.

You know that Putin is in on it when he calls trump "one of America's richest people."  Even if Trump was worth the four billion that Trump says he is really worth, where would that place him in the pecking order of America's rich?  400th?  500th?
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Quote from: grumbler on January 17, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 17, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
It's nice to see that Putin has Trump's back.

You know that Putin is in on it when he calls trump "one of America's richest people."  Even if Trump was worth the four billion that Trump says he is really worth, where would that place him in the pecking order of America's rich?  400th?  500th?

Forbes has him at #324 (it's a world-wide list, though the majority of people on it are Americans).
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Quote from: grumbler on January 17, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 17, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
It's nice to see that Putin has Trump's back.

You know that Putin is in on it when he calls trump "one of America's richest people."  Even if Trump was worth the four billion that Trump says he is really worth, where would that place him in the pecking order of America's rich?  400th?  500th?

Doesn't Trump claim to be worth $10 billion?
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I like what John Mulaney said about Trump-- that he's not really that rich, but is a comic book/hobo's vision of a rich person.

edit: https://youtu.be/dBNBAgtjYV8?t=30
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2017, 11:06:41 AM
Doesn't Trump claim to be worth $10 billion?

On what day was he making the claim?  Tuesdays, it's $4 billion.  Thursdays, I believe, are his $10 billion dollar days.
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Quote from: Syt on January 17, 2017, 10:22:13 AM
Commenting on reports spread in the Western media accusing Trump of frolicking with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel, the Russian president said he doubted that a man who had been organizing beauty pageants for years and had met "some of the most beautiful women of the world" would hire call girls in the Russian capital.

It left out one of the better parts from the segment...   :P

The original:
Quote«Трамп приехал и тут же побежал встречаться с московскими проститутками». Это человек, во-первых, взрослый уже, а во-вторых, человек, который не всю жизнь, но многие годы занимался организацией конкурсов красоты, общался с самыми красивыми женщинами мира. Знаете, я с трудом могу себе представить, что он побежал в отель встречаться с нашими девушками с пониженной социальной ответственностью. Хотя они самые лучшие в мире, безусловно. Но сомневаюсь, что Трамп клюнул на это.

My (bad) translation:  "Trump came, and immediately ran to meet with Moscow prostitutes". (Putin is setting up his point).  This is a man, first of all, who is already mature, and second, though not his entire life, but for many years was involved in organizing beauty pageants...meeting with the most beautiful women in the world.  You know, it is hard for me to imagine that he rushed to a hotel to meet with our "women of low social responsibility".  Who are, undoubtedly, the best in the world by the way.  But I doubt, that Trump is inclined towards that kind of thing.

:P

Overall, the article's portrayal of what Putin said is quite fair/spot-on.