Sorry, Louise Casey, but Muslim women are held back by discrimination

[viper37]

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

I expect that if Muslim women stopped wearing hijab, the anti-hijab people would pick some other thing to pick on.

Probably depends on why they were anti-hijab in the first place.

I am only against the hijab when there is a legal requirement to wear it and only for the hijab where it is banned.

the hijab is not really problematic, by women wearing a hijab shouldn't complain that it's harder for them to integrate.  If I move to the US and I insist on always speaking French, I have every right to.  But I shouldn't complain that it's difficult to find a job and I have trouble making new friends.  Heck, replace "the US" by "Ottawa", the bilingual capital of my country and it's the same situation.  You ain't going nowhere by speaking only French.

[viper37]

NO I WONT

So after Donald Trump and a Muslim woman was attacked in the park by three drunks who ripped off her hijab and told her to "go back to her own country", this was an attempt to save someone from misogyny?

Of course. They were trying to tell her the United States is a sexist and racist hell hole and best to go back to where she came from.

See, they had good intentions, even if their means were not totally appropriate.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

[garbon]

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

I expect that if Muslim women stopped wearing hijab, the anti-hijab people would pick some other thing to pick on.

Probably depends on why they were anti-hijab in the first place.

I am only against the hijab when there is a legal requirement to wear it and only for the hijab where it is banned.

the hijab is not really problematic, by women wearing a hijab shouldn't complain that it's harder for them to integrate.  If I move to the US and I insist on always speaking French, I have every right to.  But I shouldn't complain that it's difficult to find a job and I have trouble making new friends.  Heck, replace "the US" by "Ottawa", the bilingual capital of my country and it's the same situation.  You ain't going nowhere by speaking only French.

Not at all equivalent, Mart.

[garbon]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

Okay, Geert.

[Valmy]

What he said next left the libtard SPEECHLESS

'If Islam is so great then why are millions fleeing Islamic countries? Eh? EH?'

[Eddie Teach]

What he said next left the libtard SPEECHLESS

'If Islam is so great then why are millions fleeing Islamic countries? Eh? EH?'

[Jacob]

And the fact that as far as I know the "hijab = misogyny"  folks seem to give zero fucks about misogyny in any other shape or form,  but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

It's not a critique of Islam, but of westerners who call themselves feminists and get in a tizzy about much milder things than that(like "mansplaining" or "manspreading") but have a blind spot toward Islamic misogyny.

That does not make the alleged concern about misogyny on the part of anti-Islam types any more convincing.

[Jacob]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

Yeah, I know that is your position - and that is why I am certain that if the hijab wearing women stop wearing hijab but remain Muslim, you will find other reasons to attack them. Your concern is not about their rights or misogyny, your concern is to attack Islam. Thus your arguments about misogyny ring hollow.

[Razgovory]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

Then their choice of head wear really shouldn't matter.

[derspiess]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

Okay, Geert.

[garbon]

but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

that is because islam is terrible, just like nazism and communism

Okay, Geert.

He just got convicted.

[viper37]

And the fact that as far as I know the "hijab = misogyny"  folks seem to give zero fucks about misogyny in any other shape or form,  but they have a lot of other opinions about how Islam is terrible.

It's not a critique of Islam, but of westerners who call themselves feminists and get in a tizzy about much milder things than that(like "mansplaining" or "manspreading") but have a blind spot toward Islamic misogyny.

That does not make the alleged concern about misogyny on the part of anti-Islam types any more convincing.

tbh, nothing coming from a rightwinger would seem convincing to you.

[Syt]

He just got convicted.

But not sentenced to any punishment.

[Jacob]

tbh, nothing coming from a rightwinger would seem convincing to you.

Not true at all.

But right wingers adapting leftist talking points out of line with their normal arguments to bolster a right wing position is going to be a hard sell.