Sorry, Louise Casey, but Muslim women are held back by discrimination

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The truth hurts I guess.

Seems rather unlikely that her problems would just vanish if she stopped donning a hijab, no?

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

[garbon]

The truth hurts I guess.

Seems rather unlikely that her problems would just vanish if she stopped donning a hijab, no?

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

Well it screams it to you.

[Jacob]

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

I expect that if Muslim women stopped wearing hijab, the anti-hijab people would pick some other thing to pick on.

[derspiess]

Yeah, burqas.

[derspiess]

Oh so he wasn't make an assertion just mentioning 5 women he knows just for the point of mentioning them? He noted they were fully assimilated and noted that meant that they dressed and acted like those around him. I guess I could pretend I've never interacted with him before and don't know he's suggesting that people just need to dress and act 'appropriately' to avoid hardship.

I'm, of course, not being generous in my interpretation of what 'dress and act' are because I don't really see why it would be okay to discriminate against someone because they wear a hijab.

Wow.

[PJL]

Of course, sections of the left would be the first ones to say that Westerners should use cultural appropriation when abroad. Which makes their stance on this hypocritical.

[Admiral Yi]

I expect that if Muslim women stopped wearing hijab, the anti-hijab people would pick some other thing to pick on.

What is this expectation based on?

[garbon]

Of course, sections of the left would be the first ones to say that Westerners should use cultural appropriation when abroad. Which makes their stance on this hypocritical.

Okay.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The truth hurts I guess.

Seems rather unlikely that her problems would just vanish if she stopped donning a hijab, no?

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

Well it screams it to you.

not my problem if you can't accept the facts.

[garbon]

The truth hurts I guess.

Seems rather unlikely that her problems would just vanish if she stopped donning a hijab, no?

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

Well it screams it to you.

not my problem if you can't accept the facts.

I do accept facts. I don't accept blind hate.

[Razgovory]

You'll forgive us if we suspect that the right's foray into feminism is insincere.

[derspiess]

NO I WONT

[Valmy]

not wearing a piece of clothing that screams mysogyny helps.

I expect that if Muslim women stopped wearing hijab, the anti-hijab people would pick some other thing to pick on.

Probably depends on why they were anti-hijab in the first place.

I am only against the hijab when there is a legal requirement to wear it and only for the hijab where it is banned.

[Razgovory]

NO I WONT

So after Donald Trump and a Muslim woman was attacked in the park by three drunks who ripped off her hijab and told her to "go back to her own country", this was an attempt to save someone from misogyny?

[Berkut]

It's interesting that cultural attire is apparently only possibly legitimately meaningful if the argument is about whether some group ought to be free to wear it without it having meaning for anyone else.

IE, wearing a hijab should have zero meaning when it comes to how anyone perceives the person wearing it, but we must protect their right to wear it because it has such profound meaning to them.

I think wearing a hijab has meaning to the people who wear it, and hence it is unrealistic to demand that everyone else look on it with complete neutrality. It is not neutral at all.