The Great White Wail: The Not-So-Silent White Majority

[derspiess]

That's because you're a fool.  Threats to democracy don't come from too much free speech, they come from too little.

No need to try to be insulting.  And it doesn't have to be either/or.  I think everyone agrees that incitement to violence kind of speech is a threat to democracy, and it's already restricted.  Maybe incitement to intolerance should be thought of to belong in the same category.  If you want to have a tolerant society, you have to be intolerant of intolerance.

Insulting?  You called his argument idiotic.  Anyway, if we have too much free speech here, feel free to leave.  Plenty of places to choose from that have less.

[11B4V]

That's because you're a fool.  Threats to democracy don't come from too much free speech, they come from too little.

No need to try to be insulting.  And it doesn't have to be either/or.  I think everyone agrees that incitement to violence kind of speech is a threat to democracy, and it's already restricted.  Maybe incitement to intolerance should be thought of to belong in the same category.  If you want to have a tolerant society, you have to be intolerant of intolerance.

Insulting?  You called his argument idiotic.  Anyway, if we have too much free speech here, feel free to leave.  Plenty of places to choose from that have less.

Must have slipped his mind.

[derspiess]

Fuck these assholes.  It's about time intolerance gets some mailboxes blown the fuck up in some motherfucking faces.  Blow up some of their fucking churches.  Beat them with some baseball bats in front of their families for a change.  Fucking assholes.

Bookmarked.

[CountDeMoney]

Fuck these assholes.  It's about time intolerance gets some mailboxes blown the fuck up in some motherfucking faces.  Blow up some of their fucking churches.  Beat them with some baseball bats in front of their families for a change.  Fucking assholes.

Bookmarked.

Double bookmarked back, bitch.

[derspiess]

I'm sure it's just schtick and you're not really inciting terrorism

[CountDeMoney]

I'm sure it's just schtick and you're not really inciting terrorism

Pretty funny coming from a guy who would give his left nut for the chance to "stand his ground" and smoke a minority. Fuck you and your local Klan chapter, fetusfucker.

[Siege]

I don't think he meant a literal Obama Dorsey

That was my joke!

Wait a minute. Alfred Russel is Dorsey?

[derspiess]

I'm sure it's just schtick and you're not really inciting terrorism

Pretty funny coming from a guy who would give his left nut for the chance to "stand his ground" and smoke a minority. Fuck you and your local Klan chapter, fetusfucker.

So you are or are not inciting terrorism?

[dps]

That's because you're a fool.  Threats to democracy don't come from too much free speech, they come from too little.

No need to try to be insulting.  And it doesn't have to be either/or.  I think everyone agrees that incitement to violence kind of speech is a threat to democracy, and it's already restricted.  Maybe incitement to intolerance should be thought of to belong in the same category.  If you want to have a tolerant society, you have to be intolerant of intolerance.

Typical leftist doublespeak BS.  The solution to intolerance isn't more intolerance.  That sort of thinking is a big part of why Europe has more trouble integrating immigrants than the US.

Actually shaming people into not voicing racist opinions generally works pretty well.

Peer pressure is one thing.  Passing legislation limiting free speech is a whole different ballgame.

[DGuller]

That's because you're a fool.  Threats to democracy don't come from too much free speech, they come from too little.

No need to try to be insulting.  And it doesn't have to be either/or.  I think everyone agrees that incitement to violence kind of speech is a threat to democracy, and it's already restricted.  Maybe incitement to intolerance should be thought of to belong in the same category.  If you want to have a tolerant society, you have to be intolerant of intolerance.

Insulting?  You called his argument idiotic.  Anyway, if we have too much free speech here, feel free to leave.  Plenty of places to choose from that have less.

Must have slipped his mind.

I called his argument idiotic, I didn't call him an idiot.  He ignored the substance of what I said just to get a dig in.

[dps]

That's because you're a fool.  Threats to democracy don't come from too much free speech, they come from too little.

No need to try to be insulting.  And it doesn't have to be either/or.  I think everyone agrees that incitement to violence kind of speech is a threat to democracy, and it's already restricted.  Maybe incitement to intolerance should be thought of to belong in the same category.  If you want to have a tolerant society, you have to be intolerant of intolerance.

Insulting?  You called his argument idiotic.  Anyway, if we have too much free speech here, feel free to leave.  Plenty of places to choose from that have less.

Must have slipped his mind.

I called his argument idiotic, I didn't call him an idiot.  He ignored the substance of what I said just to get a dig in.

Far from ignoring the substance of what you posted, I consider you a fool because of it.

[CountDeMoney]

I'm sure it's just schtick and you're not really inciting terrorism

Pretty funny coming from a guy who would give his left nut for the chance to "stand his ground" and smoke a minority. Fuck you and your local Klan chapter, fetusfucker.

So you are or are not inciting terrorism?

I only incite freedom and liberty, so go sit in a convenience store parking lot and hope you get to shoot the first teen that buys a pack of Skittles.

[DGuller]

Anyway, to restate, here is my concern:  the good guys have not yet figured out a way to combat the "firehose of falsehoods" tactic.  It just seems to work;  it works for Putin abroad and it works for Trump at home (and has been working for alt right and whoever came before them).  At best is sows confusion and hampers resolve about the good guys, at worst it actually makes people believe in things that are false, and it makes them believe it so much that any evidence of patent falsity of what they believe is obviously a propaganda campaign.  If this tactic, and the people employing it, keep winning, the days of both democracy and free speech as we know it are numbered.

[Siege]

Free market capitalism, small government and our constitutional freedoms.

[DGuller]

Far from ignoring the substance of what you posted, I consider you a fool because of it.

Okay.  Coming from you, that means absolutely nothing one way or the other.