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Started by CountDeMoney, November 16, 2016, 09:43:29 PM

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CountDeMoney

America, your President-Elect.

QuoteConfusion reigns over Trump's talks with Japanese prime minister
Reuters
16 Nov 2016 at 16:46 ET   

One day before U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's first meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Japanese officials said they had not finalized when or where in New York it would take place, who would be invited, or in some cases whom to call for answers.

Uncertainty over the talks shows the difficulties in turning Trump from a freewheeling businessman into a sitting president with a watertight schedule and a fully functioning administration by his inauguration on Jan. 20.

Japanese and U.S. officials said on Wednesday the State Department had not been involved in planning the meeting, leaving the logistical and protocol details that normally would be settled far in advance still to be determined.

"There has been a lot of confusion," said one Japanese official.

The meeting was only agreed to last week and Trump and his advisers have been busy in meetings at his headquarters in Manhattan's Trump Tower in recent days to work out who gets which job in the new administration.

While world leaders sometimes hold loosely planned bilateral meetings at regional summits, it is unusual for foreign leaders to hold high-level diplomatic talks in the United States without detailed planning. Abe is on his way to an Asia-Pacific summit in Peru.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said that to his knowledge, Trump's transition team had not been in contact with the department either to discuss the transition of government or to seek information ahead of his meetings with foreign leaders.

Trump is expected to use the Abe meeting to reassure Japan and other Asian allies rattled by his campaign rhetoric, advisers to Trump said.

But Trump, a brash outsider with no diplomatic or government experience, and Abe, a veteran lawmaker, have differences on policy issues such as free trade.

Several Trump aides did not immediately answer requests on Wednesday for comment about the Abe visit or contact between the transition team and the State Department.

TRANSITION SPECULATION

Speculation about top appointments to the Trump administration has intensified since the head of the team overseeing the transition, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, was fired last week.

Trump on Wednesday denounced reports of disorganization in the team, singling out the New York Times for saying world leaders have had trouble getting in touch with him.

Trump took to Twitter to list several world leaders he had spoken with since his upset victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in the Nov. 8 presidential election.

The Republican real estate magnate said he had received and taken "calls from many foreign leaders despite what the failing @nytimes said. Russia, U.K., China, Saudi Arabia, Japan."

The Times, a frequent target of Trump's Twitter blasts, said on Tuesday that U.S. allies were "scrambling to figure out how and when to contact Mr. Trump" and blindly dialing in to Trump Tower in New York to try to reach him.

The newspaper said Trump was working without official State Department briefing materials in his dealings with foreign leaders.


"The failing @nytimes story is so totally wrong on transition," Trump tweeted, without specifying what it was in the article that was incorrect. "It is going so smoothly. Also, I have spoken to many foreign leaders."

Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence had spoken to 29 foreign leaders, the transition team said on Wednesday.

Trump has mostly stuck to normal practice for a U.S. president-elect with the order in which he has spoken to foreign leaders on the phone since his election victory.

But some of his contacts have stretched the limits of the usual procedure.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, an army general who seized power three years ago, appears to have been the first leader to speak to Trump after the election, ahead of closer allies like the leaders of Britain and Germany.

Sisi's office called Trump last Wednesday and the incoming U.S. president told him it was "the first international call he had received to congratulate him on winning the election."

Australian media reported that Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was the second leader Trump spoke to, after the Australian ambassador to the United States got Trump's personal phone number from Australian golfer and Trump friend Greg Norman.

Trump also talked on the phone to the leaders of Britain, Germany, Turkey and other allies.

But a phone call on Monday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which the two men agreed to aim for "constructive cooperation," raised eyebrows among Democrats and traditionalist Republicans worried about a resurgent Moscow.

Trump also met Britain's anti-EU Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage at Trump Tower last weekend, ahead of any meeting with British Prime Minister Theresa May.

State Department spokesman Kirby said: "There's been no outreach to date" from Trump's transition aides. "But it's not for us to approve or disapprove of conversations that the president-elect is having or may have in the future with foreign leaders."

'ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS'

Despite fevered speculation, Trump has yet to say who will fill Cabinet positions such as secretary of state, treasury secretary or defense secretary. His team said that was not unusual and was in line with the timing of the transition of Democrat Barack Obama to the White House after he won the presidency in 2008.

In a tweet on Tuesday night, Trump said he was "the only one who knows who the finalists are" for appointed positions in his administration.

When Trump's son Eric entered Trump Tower on Wednesday morning, he was asked by reporters if any positions would be announced on Wednesday and responded: "Likely."

On the ground floor of the State Department, more than a dozen empty conference rooms await Trump's transition team. State Department officials said Trump's team had not yet contacted the department's counselor, Kristie Kenney, who is overseeing the transition there.

As of Wednesday morning, the Trump team also had not contacted the Pentagon about the transition, officials said.

Trump denied he was trying to get security clearance for his children and son-in-law, which would allow them access to classified government information.

derspiess

Bolton will sort it all out.  He'll insult all our allies *within* protocol.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

11B4V

And he's just getting started. :lol:

Fucking suckers.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on November 16, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
And he's just getting started. :lol:

Fucking suckers.

#MouthbreatherStrong

I honestly believe he's not even going to live in the White House. 
You think Clinton carrying 98% of the vote in Manhattan was a rout, just wait until that entire stretch of 5th Avenue is permanently blocked off.

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Admiral Yi


CountDeMoney

Maybe somebody should send him a tweet at 3:38 am while he's on the shitter, and remind him.

Monoriu

We need to get used to the new normal. 

Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 16, 2016, 10:03:54 PM
Maybe somebody should send him a tweet at 3:38 am while he's on the shitter, and remind him.

#constipatedongoldtoliet
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Grinning_Colossus

Quote from: derspiess on November 16, 2016, 09:46:10 PM
Bolton will sort it all out.  He'll insult all our allies *within* protocol.

He'll send them the President's regards.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 16, 2016, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 16, 2016, 10:03:54 PM
Maybe somebody should send him a tweet at 3:38 am while he's on the shitter, and remind him.

#constipatedongoldtoliet

[twitter]Congrats to Cleveland Cavs on NBA Championship! I am taking the Browns to the Super Bowl![/twitter]

[twitter]Shame on @WashPost for writing that I ignored the Jap PM. I love sushi!  So unfair![/twitter]

CountDeMoney

MSNBC is reporting that the Trump people will be meeting with State and Defense tomorrow

Somebody on the transition team must be watching TV tonight :lol:

frunk

Once things ramp up and he feels personally insulted by most of the world I'm assuming his term will consist entirely of angry tweets.

I think that might be the best case scenario.

alfred russel

Quote from: frunk on November 16, 2016, 10:15:31 PM
Once things ramp up and he feels personally insulted by most of the world I'm assuming his term will consist entirely of angry tweets.

I think that might be the best case scenario.

It isn't an implausible one either.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

CountDeMoney

Quote from: frunk on November 16, 2016, 10:15:31 PM
Once things ramp up and he feels personally insulted by most of the world I'm assuming his term will consist entirely of angry tweets.

I think that might be the best case scenario.

One would hope so.

Considering the team he's putting together, I could see a Cuban Missile Crisis-type event go south real fast.  Thirteen Days?  With the names of a national security decision-making crew they've been tossing around, try Thirteen Minutes.

Come January 20th, I believe we will be as close to the possibility and potentiality of nuclear war since 1982.  And the worst of it is, we'll have become the threat.