Tour de Armstrong - Or how they still think it'll be a clean tour.

[Liep]

So Mont Ventoux was another let down. Only Andy really had the power to try and attack, sadly Frank seemed to have an off day. Armstrong defended his podium position very nicely, but boy that's unlike him to pull a Drillo.

Also, I feel sad for Tony Martin that he lost to Garete who didn't take a lead all the last way up but attacked at the end.

[Octavian]

ROFL

They just played the Danish national anthem for Contador

[Liep]

Fuglsang will be interesting to follow during the Vuelta, a new Riis?

[Zoupa]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

[Liep]

Did anyone ever believe he wasn't doped?

[The Brain]

Did anyone ever believe he wasn't doped?

No one sane.

[jimmy olsen]

[Ed Anger]

stupid.

[Grey Fox]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

You mean like all the other athletes?

It's bicyle racing, if they aren't on dope, they aren't trying hard enough.

[garbon]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

60 Minutes? What's next, referencing articles in USA Today?

[jimmy olsen]

stupid.

I knew you'd say that!

[Berkut]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

Did you really find that report compelling or convincing, at least, any more so than the numerous other stories that have surfaced over the years?

They all, including this one, basically amount to some person saying they know that Armstrong took drugs, but never any actual evidence beyond hearsay.

I don't really know one way or the other, just don't really see what the latest story has that all the other ones do not to make you decide that THIS is the convincing evidence...

[Zoupa]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

Did you really find that report compelling or convincing, at least, any more so than the numerous other stories that have surfaced over the years?

They all, including this one, basically amount to some person saying they know that Armstrong took drugs, but never any actual evidence beyond hearsay.

I don't really know one way or the other, just don't really see what the latest story has that all the other ones do not to make you decide that THIS is the convincing evidence...

This is not the convincing evidence to me, since I always thought he was a lying piece of shit.

Do you think he was doping?

[DGuller]

I wouldn't trust 60 Minutes.  Any time I've seen a piece from them on the subject I know a lot about, I inevitably find that they

1)  Have limited knowledge of the facts, sometimes very limited.
2)  Definitely have a strong agenda to promote.
3)  Pick facts and interview bits selectively to drive that agenda home.

Of course, if they do a piece on the color of the sky, or whether Armstrong doped, they'd probably get it right, simply because it's nearly impossible to get wrong, but it's not like them doing a piece means anything at all.

[DGuller]

Anyone catch 60 minutes?

Turns out it wasn't an ev0l conspiracy by those fucking frogs, but hero livestrong was doped all along.

Shocker.

Did you really find that report compelling or convincing, at least, any more so than the numerous other stories that have surfaced over the years?

They all, including this one, basically amount to some person saying they know that Armstrong took drugs, but never any actual evidence beyond hearsay.

I don't really know one way or the other, just don't really see what the latest story has that all the other ones do not to make you decide that THIS is the convincing evidence...

I don't think that's hearsay.  If Landis says that he heard Lemond talking about Armstrong doping, that's hearsay.  If Landis say that he doped in the same van with Armstrong, that's actual witness testimony.  Of course, the problem is that pretty much every witness will be far from perfectly reliable, since they would all have a history of doping themselves and then lying about it for a long time.