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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Oexmelin

It's really important to maintain that sort of reaction, and fight against the strong impulse to normalize.

We ought not to be surprised, but we can't find it normal.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2026, 03:26:29 PMBut possible. We have to gain four with JD Vance around.

Even if the Dems only tie it, that could be incredibly useful...forcing JD to sit his ass in the Senate most of the time could be a good thing.  Keeps him out of trouble elsewhere, and brings the chance to put him on the record/keep him in the spotlight on lots of issues he might rather avoid ahead of a Presidential primary.

Oexmelin

From Stefan Müller

QuoteTo all ICE officers: You have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties, and anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop you or tries to obstruct you is committing a felony. You have immunity to perform your duties, and no one—no city official, no state official, no illegal alien, no leftist agitator, or domestic insurrectionist—can prevent you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. The Department of Justice has made it clear that if officials cross that line into obstruction, into criminal conspiracy against the United States or against ICE officers, they will face justice
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Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 15, 2026, 07:18:40 PMFrom Stefan Müller

QuoteTo all ICE officers: You have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties, and anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop you or tries to obstruct you is committing a felony. You have immunity to perform your duties, and no one—no city official, no state official, no illegal alien, no leftist agitator, or domestic insurrectionist—can prevent you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. The Department of Justice has made it clear that if officials cross that line into obstruction, into criminal conspiracy against the United States or against ICE officers, they will face justice

He talks about laws and justice while saying the law does not apply.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Legbiter

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crazy canuck

The rule of law is unknown in these United States of America
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Jacob

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 15, 2026, 06:28:47 PMIt's really important to maintain that sort of reaction, and fight against the strong impulse to normalize.

We ought not to be surprised, but we can't find it normal.

Yeah I agree. The part where people throw up their hands and say "what are you going to do, of course they're terrible" play into the hands of the fascists IMO.

Jacob

Two separate thoughts:

1) It seems like the best hope for the midterms is that the Democrats can get enough seats in the House of Representatives to act as a bit of a brake, though no real leader or strategy for that seems to have emerged (though maybe it's best for that to emerge after the election).

There's no real likelihood of a massive rebuke from the electorate such that Trump and his cronies would face actual impeachment and investigations for their corruption, is that right?

There's theoretically an outside chance that the Democrats could get a narrow majority in the Senate, but it's a stretch.

2) The Republicans are still looking for their Reichstag Fire moment IMO.

Oexmelin

An astonishing proportion of the American electorate remains depoliticized. Nothing the Democrats have done so far convinces me they have taken the midterms seriously. People need to bypass that party, and organize locally.
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PRC

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2026, 08:26:31 PMThe rule of law is unknown in these United States of America

Trump and the administration around him, the movement around him, are all Maoists.  The rule of law is for those on the outside, for those on the inside only cultural and historical victory matters.

grumbler

Quote from: Jacob on January 15, 2026, 08:39:05 PMTwo separate thoughts:

1) It seems like the best hope for the midterms is that the Democrats can get enough seats in the House of Representatives to act as a bit of a brake, though no real leader or strategy for that seems to have emerged (though maybe it's best for that to emerge after the election).

There's no real likelihood of a massive rebuke from the electorate such that Trump and his cronies would face actual impeachment and investigations for their corruption, is that right?

There's theoretically an outside chance that the Democrats could get a narrow majority in the Senate, but it's a stretch.

2) The Republicans are still looking for their Reichstag Fire moment IMO.

If the Democrats win the House, they can start an impeachment inquiry that will allow them to request any documents they want and force sworn testimony from anyone relevant. That will be devastating to Trump and his cronies. I desperately want to see Jamie Raskin forcing Stephen Miller to Take the Fifth about 100 times.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 15, 2026, 08:54:17 PMAn astonishing proportion of the American electorate remains depoliticized. Nothing the Democrats have done so far convinces me they have taken the midterms seriously. People need to bypass that party, and organize locally.


Got to do both.

Yes vote for the Democrats. But don't expect them to do shit unless we make them.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#42132
Quote from: Legbiter on January 15, 2026, 08:22:30 PMMachado says she gave Trump her Nobel Pace Prize medal  :lol:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2011916544037810231

Very predictable. Why she was given the Peace Prize in the first place is a mystery to me.

Granted that award is kind of a joke. But still.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

PRC


Valmy

Quote from: PRC on January 15, 2026, 10:29:25 PMTrump owns a Nobel Peace prize.

Somebody elses but yes. Sort of like how Putin has a Super Bowl ring.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."