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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on October 05, 2020, 08:10:02 PM
Quote from: The Larch on October 05, 2020, 08:04:32 PM
And I watched the final scene right before writing my post and stand by my own assessment. And "alpha male" is an absolutely empty and baseless term.
:wacko: I think we've reached peak woke here.

How is that "woke"? :unsure:

Maybe I only have a weak grasp on what woke means but I thought it had something to do with the oppression of minorities or something. What does that have to do with Beria?
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DGuller

Quote from: The Larch on October 05, 2020, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Woke? I thought it was that alpha-omega porn porn stuff that made it cringey  :P

And the original research it comes from (on behaviour of wolf packs) was discredited by its own authors after further research and the misunderstandings it was causing but the terms continue to be used as if they meant anything.
The terms mean what they are understood to mean.  The term "alpha males" refers to personalities that try to dominate interactions with others.  Who gives a shit whether originally it came from a misunderstanding, the actual humans who behave like that exist, and this phrase is a succinct way to describe such personalities. 

It requires a tremendous willingness to not understand the intent of communication to find the use of this phrase either cringey or not meaning anything.  Seriously, this nonsense has gone far enough, you can't even tell what time it is without wondering whether a certain way to tell time is now considered "cringey".  I truly regret attempting to discuss anything now, this place can be really disgusting sometimes, and now is one of those times.

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I don't see how anyone who rewatched that scene an hour ago, a day ago, or a year ago could consider Beria as coming off an "alpha male" in it. The man was weepy, raving mess.
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FunkMonk

The videos of Donald gasping for breath after arriving at the White House does not look good. Really not good.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: DGuller on October 05, 2020, 08:02:39 PM
I just watched the movie again an hour ago.  And WTF, did "alpha male" just become a taboo word among the woke?  :huh:

I don't think the terms itself is cringey, but it is cringey as applied to Beria, a notorious and brutal rapist of young girls among many other crimes.
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Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Woke? I thought it was that alpha-omega porn stuff that made it cringey  :P

Alpha omega porn? This is something I've not heard of.

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: FunkMonk on October 05, 2020, 09:46:49 PM
The videos of Donald gasping for breath after arriving at the White House does not look good. Really not good.

Trump realized he doesn't have a real shot at a Nobel, he is going all out for the Darwin Award.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Malthus on October 05, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Woke? I thought it was that alpha-omega porn stuff that made it cringey  :P

Alpha omega porn? This is something I've not heard of.

The Word became flesh and it was HOTT.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Malthus

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 05, 2020, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 05, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Woke? I thought it was that alpha-omega porn stuff that made it cringey  :P

Alpha omega porn? This is something I've not heard of.

The Word became flesh and it was HOTT.

Oddly enough, I did a picture for a friend of mine that actually sorta fits here. 😄
https://imgur.com/a/b31Kzaq
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

katmai

Quote from: FunkMonk on October 05, 2020, 09:46:49 PM
The videos of Donald gasping for breath after arriving at the White House does not look good. Really not good.
I'll be laughing my ass off if he ends up having to go back to Walter Reed
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merithyn

Quote from: katmai on October 05, 2020, 11:02:47 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 05, 2020, 09:46:49 PM
The videos of Donald gasping for breath after arriving at the White House does not look good. Really not good.
I'll be laughing my ass off if he ends up having to go back to Walter Reed

I think he'd rather die, first.

:)
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I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
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Barrister

Quote from: DGuller on October 05, 2020, 07:48:36 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 05, 2020, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2020, 04:36:46 PM
I loved how Ianucci used accents in the movie.
Ianucci is a genius - strongly recommend his adaptation of David Copperfield with Dev Patel. It's very good.
One thing I wish they did differently was Beria's downfall.  The way it actually happened would've been more impactful than how they portrayed it in the movie.  In real life the rest of the gang coldly dispatched him, and Beria went to his execution a broken pleading mess of a man.  That would've been a good demonstration of how anyone's fortunes can suddenly and comprehensively change in that kind of a regime.  In the movie Beria still looks like an alpha male even as he's executed.

You know this entire exchange caused me to watch Death of Stalin on Netflix tonight.  Which was a well spent night - I love this movie.

I really don't think Beria came across as an "alpha".  Yes he was threatening people to the end - but it was clear he had no power to do anything about it.  Came across as more pathetic than anything.
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garbon

Quote from: DGuller on October 05, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: The Larch on October 05, 2020, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Woke? I thought it was that alpha-omega porn porn stuff that made it cringey  :P

And the original research it comes from (on behaviour of wolf packs) was discredited by its own authors after further research and the misunderstandings it was causing but the terms continue to be used as if they meant anything.
The terms mean what they are understood to mean.  The term "alpha males" refers to personalities that try to dominate interactions with others.  Who gives a shit whether originally it came from a misunderstanding, the actual humans who behave like that exist, and this phrase is a succinct way to describe such personalities. 

It requires a tremendous willingness to not understand the intent of communication to find the use of this phrase either cringey or not meaning anything.  Seriously, this nonsense has gone far enough, you can't even tell what time it is without wondering whether a certain way to tell time is now considered "cringey".  I truly regret attempting to discuss anything now, this place can be really disgusting sometimes, and now is one of those times.

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