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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Caliga on August 14, 2020, 01:45:31 PM
To my ear, the limited Finnish I have heard thus far sounds vaguely like... Russian? :hmm:

I am sure I would get beaten up if I said that aloud in Helsinki. :)

Perkele!  :ultra:

FunkMonk

Donald's supposedly considering a pardon for Edward Snowden  :lol:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

Quote from: 11B4V on August 15, 2020, 09:45:53 PM
His base hates snowden
But his other base is probably very thankful for Snowden.

HisMajestyBOB

Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Hamilcar

Quote from: grumbler on August 15, 2020, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 15, 2020, 08:41:28 AM
And your bleating about American democracy did?  :hmm:

It's Hamilcar.  Trolls gotta troll.  They don't need to be original to feel so very proud of themselves.  See also:  Donald Trump.

Go pick up a protest sign, or just admit that you're ok with fascism because it'd be inconvenient to get out and do something.

History will look at you with contempt.

DGuller

History will not look at grumbler with contempt, history respect its elders.

mongers

Seems Trump's mains strategy for 'winning' the contest will be to subvert the electoral process?

But might he need a 2nd string to his bow and mixing metaphors, choose something out of the right-wing demagogue's playbook, a foreign war to distract and unite the populous?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

alfred russel

Quote from: Hamilcar on August 15, 2020, 07:50:22 AM
However this turns out, I never again want to hear an American pontificate about "democracy". You guys are at D- right now and at risk of failing entirely.

Playing games with the franchise, electoral fraud, voter suppression, and outright violence surrounding elections have long traditions in American history.

From the congressional record, speech made in 1900 (there are others like this):

QuoteAnd he [Senator John C. Spooner of Wisconsin] said we had taken their [blacks'] rights away from
them. He asked me was it right to murder them in order to carry the elections. I never saw one
murdered. I never saw one shot at an election. It was the riots before the elections, precipitated by their
own hot-headedness in attempting to hold the government, that brought on conflicts between the races
and caused the shotgun to be used. That is what I meant by saying we used the shotgun.

I want to call the Senator's attention to one fact. He said that the Republican Party [during Reconstruction) gave the negroes the ballot in order to protect themselves against the indignities and
wrongs that were attempted to be heaped upon them by the enactment of the black code. I say it was
because the Republicans of that day, led by [Congressman] Thad Stevens, wanted to put white necks
under black heels and to get revenge. There is a difference of opinion. You have your opinion about it,
and I have mine, and we can never agree.

I want to ask the Senator this proposition in arithmetic: In my State there were 135,000 negro
voters, or negroes of voting age, and some 90,000 or 95,000 white voters. General [Edward] Canby set
up a carpetbag government there [after the Civil War] and turned our State over to this majority. Now, I
want to ask you, with a free vote and a fair count, how are you going to beat 135,000 by 95,000? How
are you going to do it? You had set us an impossible task. You had handcuffed us and thrown away the
key, and you propped your carpetbag negro government with [federal] bayonets. Whenever it was
necessary to sustain the [Reconstruction] government you held it up by the Army.

Mr. President, I have not the facts and figures here, but I want the country to get the full view of the
Southern side of this question and the justification for anything we did. We were sorry we had the
necessity forced upon us, but we could not help it, and as white men we are not sorry for it, and we do
not propose to apologize for anything we have done in connection with it. We took the government
away from them [blacks] in 1876. We did take it. If no other Senator has come here previous to this time
who would acknowledge it, more is the pity. We have had no fraud in our elections in South Carolina
since 1884. There has been no organized Republican party in the State.

We did not disfranchise the negroes until 1895. Then we had a constitutional convention convened
which took the matter up calmly, deliberately, and avowedly with the purpose of disfranchising as many
of them as we could under the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments. We adopted the educational
qualification [for voting] as the only means left to us, and the negro is as contented and as prosperous
and as well protected in South Carolina today as in any State of the Union south of the Potomac. He is
not meddling with politics, for he found that the more he meddled with them the worse off he got. As to
his "rights" – I will not discuss them now. We of the South have never recognized the right of the negro
to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be equal to the white man, and
we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him. I would to
God the last one of them was in Africa and that none of them had ever been brought to our shores
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Syt

Steve Bannon has let himself go. Well, let himself go even more.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Razgovory

I'm going to admit, my hair looks a bit like that now.  I haven't gone to the barber this year.  I'm thinking of just shaving my head.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

celedhring

Wait, Kasich is backing Biden? Is that big news or no-news?

DGuller

Quote from: celedhring on August 16, 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Wait, Kasich is backing Biden? Is that big news or no-news?
I think he's been written off as a RINO for a while now.

Admiral Yi

It might become big news if more prominent Republicans follow his lead.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: DGuller on August 16, 2020, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 16, 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Wait, Kasich is backing Biden? Is that big news or no-news?
I think he's been written off as a RINO for a while now.

Which is insane given that he started his career in Congress as one of Gingrich's most committed ideological bomb throwers.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson