What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[The Minsky Moment]

Her being a child saying blunt things to adults is the argument.  Argument to innocence, or something of that nature, the converse of ad hominem.

I don't see the issue.  When a minor puts themselves out in the political arena, they are asking to be treated as an adult.  It's OK to do that.  A person who treats the child's ideas respectfully and responds with adult argument is not going to be condemned. 

The problem is that all too many so-called adults in public life have become used to acting like children, relying on variants of the grade school playground argumentative toolbox ("you're a retard", "Go back to mommy", "I'm rubber, you're glue").  This provides for some lowbrow amusement in the middlebrow setting of cable TV news.  But the incongruity that results when the adult acting as child confronts the child acting as adult breaks the spell and reveals the talking head assholes for what they are. Assholes.

Simply put - if having a child carry the message deters descent inti the lowest common denominator of public discourse, that would be WAD, not a bug.  Sadly,deterrence fails in this respect, as we have seen the usual suspects continue to act in their usual asinine way despite Ms. Thunberg's tender years.

[mongers]

Trump planning on leaving the UPU:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49816654



Is it because it's name includes Universal and Union?


Also what was with the bizarre level of fake tan he was sporting at the UN today, can no one in his entourage now cross him?

[crazy canuck]

What has she said that is objectionable - to those who think it is a bad idea for a 16 year old to tell the grown ups they have fucked up.

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump planning on leaving the UPU:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49816654



Is it because it's name includes Universal and Union?

It's an obsession of Peter Navarro. He thinks the postal union is another international conspiracy against American manufacturing.

[viper37]

He thinks the postal union is another international conspiracy against American manufacturing.

yes, that's the reason why a 3500$ iPhone is not made in the US.

[Tamas]

So if the transcript only shows that he wanted Ukraine to look into some dirt on Biden but didn't blackmail them with the support, then this is not good enough to impeach him, is it?

[Berkut]

So if the transcript only shows that he wanted Ukraine to look into some dirt on Biden but didn't blackmail them with the support, then this is not good enough to impeach him, is it?

Impeachment is a political process.

If the transcript has him asking for a foreign power to investigate his political opponents, even if he doesn't explicitly include a quid pro quo, then I think it is most certainly enough to continue with impeachment proceedings.

There is no question that the quid pro quo exists, even if it is not made explicit. He delayed hundreds of millions in aid, then called him up and asked him to investigate Biden. Is that enough for a criminal conviction? Probably not - but this isn't a criminal proceeding, it is a political proceeding.

[Razgovory]

Congress wants to see the complaint that the White House is required by law to provide.  One thing that seems very clear is that Trump doesn't have an inkling of why his behavior is unacceptable.  I think he has a genuine inability to put himself in other people's shoes.  He can't make the connection that if he does this Biden's son someone else can do it to his kids.  He also doesn't seem to understand that if it's wrong for Biden to get someone fired to stop an investigation it's also wrong when he gave that order to fire Mueller. 

[Sophie Scholl]

Wasn't the prosecutor deliberately not looking into Biden's son/the company he worked for?  Wasn't that part of the corruption angle against the prosecutor?  How Biden's son got the job and kept the job is the bigger scandal in my opinion, not the pressure to remove the corrupt prosecutor.  That, if anything, hurt Biden's son and the company he worked for.  If we're going with investigations into the placing of family members in positions they don't deserve during one's Presidency/Vice Presidency, then Trump has a lot more to fear.  Nepotism is strong in the current administration.

[viper37]

Wasn't that part of the corruption angle against the prosecutor?  How Biden's son got the job and kept the job is the bigger scandal in my opinion, not the pressure to remove the corrupt prosecutor.

Not really.  He's a lawyer and former lobbyist, son of the US Vice-President.  If you are a corrupt businessman, that's the kind of person you want to hire to front the idea you are running a totally legitimate business.  Note that he wasn't the only American there.

[jimmy olsen]

So if the transcript only shows that he wanted Ukraine to look into some dirt on Biden but didn't blackmail them with the support, then this is not good enough to impeach him, is it?

I want you to do me a favor though

That's pretty blatant coming after the Ukrainian president bringing up military aid.

[Syt]

[The Brain]

I see.

[Camerus]

 

[FunkMonk]

Might be the single funniest tweet in history.