What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[DGuller]

And even if it isn't it's the polite thing to do.

meowtf?

It means you act in a way that avoids making other people feel bad, even if you have to be dishonest a little.  I'm sure you've encountered the concept outside of Languish at some point, though maybe you didn't realize that's what it was.

[garbon]

And even if it isn't it's the polite thing to do.

meowtf?

It means you act in a way that avoids making other people feel bad, even if you have to be dishonest a little.  I'm sure you've encountered the concept outside of Languish at some point, though maybe you didn't realize that's what it was.

What was confusing was the notion of being polite on Languish. But then I can see that the notion of being polite when explaining what it means to be polite is a foreign concept to you, so all good.

[jimmy olsen]

Disgusting




https://www.vox.com/2018/7/29/17627134/income-inequality-chart

[dps]

Isn't it so obvious that people mean "per person" that it goes without saying, and in fact saying it is just adding clutter to conversation?

The problem is, some people through a desire to obfuscate, and others through ignorance, will miss-use stats, so there's a need to be specific if data is raw totals or per capita totals.

Of course, nowadays, folks who want to mislead others increasingly won't bother to miss-use actual, accurate statistical information, since they can just make up numbers and people will accept them.

[Liep]

Disgusting
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/29/17627134/income-inequality-chart

Impressive

[Solmyr]

So, Trump vs the Koch brothers...

[Tamas]

Disgusting




https://www.vox.com/2018/7/29/17627134/income-inequality-chart

It might be worth noting that in Western Europe it is often claimed that the 1%'s share of wealth is unbearable and must be eliminated pronto.

[mongers]

Odd y-axis range choices there. 

Why not start at 0% on both graphs?

[garbon]

Odd y-axis range choices there. 

Why not start at 0% on both graphs?

Here's the original source but it doesn't say why they've used those.

https://wir2018.wid.world/files/download/wir2018-summary-english.pdf

[Jacob]

Looks like they fit to the max and min on each graph.

[grumbler]

Odd y-axis range choices there. 

Why not start at 0% on both graphs?

That's an old tactic designed to maximize the delta.  It is generally considered at least slightly dishonest, especially when, as in this case, two things to be compared don't even share the same Y axis values.

The funny thing is that the same conclusions would be drawn from these graphs if they were honestly presented.  Some people can't resist gilding the lily, though.

[DGuller]

To be fair, while playing with the y-axis is often a deliberate attempt to be misleading, there are legitimate reasons to do so.  You don't want any dead space in the plots, you want to accentuate the plots on what is being displayed.  A lot of statistical software also automatically determines minimum and maximum axis values from the data points, precisely for that purpose.

[Berkut]

Yeah, I don't see this as being dishonest - the axis is very clearly labeled, and the message is clear as well, and not misleading.

It is certainly possible to be pretty dishonest with that, but I don't think this is an example.

[Oexmelin]

Apparently, Manafort paid for his suits (all 930,000$ worth of them) via wires on foreign accounts...

[jimmy olsen]

 How did I miss this classic!?