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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tonitrus

But to the more serious point...if we're to move along the road towards a universal/socialized health system, Medicare is the logical foundation on which to build it.  Modern day politics would likely permit a "gut-and-build-from-scratch" approach.

Eddie Teach

Medicare is a known program, people can look at their parents and grandparents. Socialized medicine is a more abstract concept that could take a variety of implementations.
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Ed Anger

Hey, everybody bitching about the donut hole. Sounds delightful.
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Grey Fox

QuoteTrump says he wants American people to treat him like North Koreans treat totalitarian dictator Kim Jong Un.

"Hey, he's the head of a country, and he's the strong head -- he speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same."

LOL, he's going to ask to change the 22nd amendment & the republicans in congress are going to do it. :lol:
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Eddie Teach

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Admiral Yi

According to a NYT Sunday Magazine article on Trump, Trudeau, and trade, when NAFTA was originally implemented it was vigorously fought by the Canadian left.

A little ironic.

Monoriu

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2018, 05:43:47 PM
According to a NYT Sunday Magazine article on Trump, Trudeau, and trade, when NAFTA was originally implemented it was vigorously fought by the Canadian left.

A little ironic.

I was in a Canadian university in the 90s, and I still remember how hostile the professors and students were to NAFTA.  It was all for the multinational corporations, rich and capitalists, and the workers would lose their jobs, the small businesses would close, the Canadian resources would be depleted etc.  My geography professor angrily drew a diagram on the blackboard.  The US had the money, Canada had the resources, and Mexico had the labour.  Therefore the US would exploit both Canada and Mexico.     

crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2018, 05:43:47 PM
According to a NYT Sunday Magazine article on Trump, Trudeau, and trade, when NAFTA was originally implemented it was vigorously fought by the Canadian left.

A little ironic.

When the first US Canada free trade agreement was negotiated in the 80s it was the main issue in the federal election.  It was a very divisive issue.   I think the consensus is that free trade has neither been as terrible as its opponents feared, nor as beneficial as its proponents hoped.  But over the decades our economies have become so entwined that it has become a non issue here.  Only a madman would think to.... oh never mind.

Malthus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2018, 05:43:47 PM
According to a NYT Sunday Magazine article on Trump, Trudeau, and trade, when NAFTA was originally implemented it was vigorously fought by the Canadian left.

A little ironic.

Not just the Canadian left. The left in the US as well. Free trade pacts are seen as part of "globalization", which is bad from a left wing POV. Now, left and right wing populists are fighting over who can trash free trade the more - the one thing they both share is a complete willful ignorance of economics.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/07/01/rightwing-vs-leftwing-populists-global-trade
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The Larch

So, there's going to be an US Space Force now?

Razgovory

Well, I thought Trump would be bring us into a war this summer.  I didn't think he'd fall in love with Kim Jong-Un and start a trade war with Canada.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Malthus on June 18, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 18, 2018, 05:43:47 PM
According to a NYT Sunday Magazine article on Trump, Trudeau, and trade, when NAFTA was originally implemented it was vigorously fought by the Canadian left.

A little ironic.

Not just the Canadian left. The left in the US as well. Free trade pacts are seen as part of "globalization", which is bad from a left wing POV. Now, left and right wing populists are fighting over who can trash free trade the more - the one thing they both share is a complete willful ignorance of economics.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/07/01/rightwing-vs-leftwing-populists-global-trade


Yeah, I think this started as a Reagan initiative.  My mom was a party flunky at the time and was asked to go and sell Clinton's endorsement of NAFTA to a group of Teamsters.  Not exactly a receptive crowd.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Wow, not exactly something a chief of staff normally says :o

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/nielsen-trump-border-children-family-separation-653265
QuoteBut Kelly's status in the White House has changed in recent months, and he and the president are now seen as barely tolerating one another. According to four people close to Kelly, the former Marine general has largely yielded his role as the enforcer in the West Wing as his relationship with Trump has soured. While Kelly himself once believed he stood between Trump and chaos, he has told at least one person close to him that he may as well let the president do what he wants, even if it leads to impeachment — at least this chapter of American history would come to a close.
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Barrister

Trump apparently is confused by the differences between cudty fees, and tariffs: rants about Canadians having to scuff up their new shoes before going back to Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-canadian-tariffs-smuggling-1.4713012
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