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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

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Whitey McCracker in the Rust Belt had no problems voting strongly Democratic for a couple decades when their unions were strong--they'd tolerate the progressive social agenda as long as they had a reason to vote Democratic.  But with the systematic deconstruction of unions at the state level over the last last 10 years, Whitey McCracker has no compelling or immediate reason whatsoever to vote Democratic.  They can slide into identity politics with just a push.

C'mon people, you're over-thinking this.  You really believe a rural white voter in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania is any different than a rural white voter in Kansas or Nebraska? The only difference was the presence of unions. The various GOPs at the state level have done their jobs:  by reducing the strength and presence of unions, they have permanently shifted an entire demographic of the electorate.  That hasn't been done since Reagan.

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Quote from: Valmy on November 21, 2017, 11:18:22 PM

I mean the Democrats had the economic centrists and most of their own power base wanted to revolt over it.

I mean sure I love economic centrism but that is not a winner these days. Also I was not aware Hillary was out there beating the identity politics drum, Trump was doing that and it took him to victory.



Yeah, I think that's dead now.  Neither party is interested in it.  It'll be socialism vs mercantilism for the next few decades.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 21, 2017, 11:35:11 PM
Whitey McCracker in the Rust Belt had no problems voting strongly Democratic for a couple decades when their unions were strong--they'd tolerate the progressive social agenda as long as they had a reason to vote Democratic.  But with the systematic deconstruction of unions at the state level over the last last 10 years, Whitey McCracker has no compelling or immediate reason whatsoever to vote Democratic.  They can slide into identity politics with just a push.

C'mon people, you're over-thinking this.  You really believe a rural white voter in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania is any different than a rural white voter in Kansas or Nebraska? The only difference was the presence of unions. The various GOPs at the state level have done their jobs:  by reducing the strength and presence of unions, they have permanently shifted an entire demographic of the electorate.  That hasn't been done since Reagan.

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White House disputes senator's claim of faked bad connection to get Trump off the phone

"I said, 'Gary, why don't you do this, just take the phone from, you know, your cell phone back and just say, 'Mr. President, you're brilliant, but we're losing contact, and I think we're going to lose you now, so good-bye,' " the lawmaker recounted on "CNN Newsroom" with Poppy Harlow and John Berman.

"That's what he did, and he hung up," Carper continued. "And then we went back to having the kind of conversation where we needed to, where they asked the right kind of questions, looking for consensus and common ground and I think we identified a little bit."


http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/tom-carper-gary-cohn-phone-call/index.html
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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Jet: I see.
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FunkMonk

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 21, 2017, 11:35:11 PM
Whitey McCracker in the Rust Belt had no problems voting strongly Democratic for a couple decades when their unions were strong--they'd tolerate the progressive social agenda as long as they had a reason to vote Democratic.  But with the systematic deconstruction of unions at the state level over the last last 10 years, Whitey McCracker has no compelling or immediate reason whatsoever to vote Democratic.  They can slide into identity politics with just a push.

C'mon people, you're over-thinking this.  You really believe a rural white voter in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania is any different than a rural white voter in Kansas or Nebraska? The only difference was the presence of unions. The various GOPs at the state level have done their jobs:  by reducing the strength and presence of unions, they have permanently shifted an entire demographic of the electorate.  That hasn't been done since Reagan.

For all the shit that the GOP gets that it is overrun with morons (and it is) you do have to recognize the sheer brilliance of this strategy and how incredibly successful it has become. The Democrats will be out of power for a generation.  :lol:
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More on how Trump leaking that Israeli intelligence operation to the Russians back in May went down

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/trump-intel-slip?mbid=social_twitter
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Yes, fruity western groups often dabble with the occult.

For a moment there I thought they all played RPGs.

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Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 23, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
Yes, fruity western groups often dabble with the occult.

For a moment there I thought they all played RPGs.

You really should look up the bizarre titles they come up with. Some are actually known as Dragons, others as Hydras, and still more as Goblins.
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Quote from: Oexmelin on November 22, 2017, 11:39:23 PM
Hilarious. 

Seedy, should you need more validation, check out https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/

Big fan of that article, though I think you and I share a lot of the same views politically, Oex. :)
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