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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Eddie Teach

He doesn't look like a Bond villain at all. His wife, maybe.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 19, 2017, 04:46:39 PM
He doesn't look like a Bond villain at all. His wife, maybe.

He looks like her Thursdays-at-2pm client at the S&M club.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Oexmelin on November 19, 2017, 03:55:29 PM
Look up that John Oliver bit where he compares Trump's speech patterns to the iPhone's autocorrect suggestions...

That was hilarious.

jimmy olsen

We basically don't have federal government, let's party like it's 1788. <_<

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/frustrated-foreign-leaders-bypass-washington-in-search-of-blue-state-allies/2017/11/17/3ad10e80-cbab-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_nationstate703pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.de1661ca4c9e
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Frustrated foreign leaders bypass Washington in search of blue-state allies

By Michael Birnbaum and Greg Jaffe 

November 18    

BRUSSELS — California Gov. Jerry Brown's recent trip to the capital of the European Union had all the trappings of a visit by a head of state — he even got an upgraded title.

"Mr. President, welcome in Brussels," Brown (D) was told this month as he exited his Mercedes van in front of the European Parliament in the spot usually reserved for national leaders. Then he was whisked off to a day of hearings, testimony and high-level meetings in the heart of European power.

Nearly a year into the Trump presidency, countries around the world are scrambling to adapt as the White House has struggled to fill key government positions, scaled back the State Department and upended old alliances. Now some nations are finding that even if they are frustrated by President Trump's Washington, they can still prosper from robust relations with the California Republic and a constellation of like-minded U.S. cities, some of which are bigger than European countries.

Brown's 10-day trip to Europe, which ended Tuesday, was just the latest in a growing transatlantic back-and-forth that bypasses the Trump-era White House. In July, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio headlined a protest in Hamburg against the Group of 20. Several European countries have stationed ambassadors in Silicon Valley to boost trade ties.

Meanwhile, state and municipal governments are expanding or building new offices to help them manage the increased interest in Europe and Asia. This year, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti (D) created the position of deputy mayor for international affairs to better manage relations with foreign governments.

Last week Garcetti huddled in Los Angeles with the Israeli president and Armenian defense minister. The latter stopped by on his way to a peacekeeping conference and briefly described his country's ongoing dispute with Azerbaijan over the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh region.

The mayor's motives for taking the meeting were simple. "We have a big Armenian population in Los Angeles that cares about events in Armenia," said Nina Hachigian, who filled the international affairs position and previously served in the Obama administration as U.S. ambassador to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Jakarta, Indonesia.

Many world leaders say they have no illusions that they can avoid the White House on critical issues at the core of global stability, especially those related to security. But they have embraced efforts by Democratic governors and mayors to present a different face of U.S. power to the world, albeit at a lower level than the White House or State Department.

There is an impression by politicians here that President Trump in person is no longer the voice of the free Western world," said Christian Ehler, a German lawmaker who heads the European Parliament's delegation for relations with the United States and helped broker Brown's visit to Brussels. "We are much more carefully looking now to the diversity of what is being discussed in the United States, and we see that California is one of the powerhouses of the world economically."

European leaders said they have been frustrated by the Trump administration's unprecedented slowness in filling senior political jobs at the State Department and Pentagon, which has given them few policy interlocutors in Washington.


Ambassadors complain that even when they can secure meetings with administration officials, the policy is often unclear.

"The problem is that people don't know anything," said one Eastern European ambassador in Washington who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share his frank opinion. "They are quite open about it. . . . It doesn't matter what level. It is all levels."


In meetings with Trump to present their credentials, European ambassadors said the president was laser focused on two subjects. He wanted to know how much their countries were spending on defense and the size of their trade deficit with the United States, two ambassadors said.

In Europe, leaders have been especially frustrated by Trump's June decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement, viewing it as a gratuitous slap at them on one of their top priorities. So they welcomed Brown's climate-change-focused trip, which was built around global-warming talks taking place in Bonn.

Ehler said that although European countries always have had robust ties with U.S. cities and states for business reasons, the center of their conversations had shifted since Trump took office.

In the past, he said, the federal government was the focus on most big issues. Now when governors and mayors come to visit, "climate change or environmental issues, or regulatory issues, are the focus. Because these issues are dropping down from the capital level to the state or community level," Ehler said.




In the United States, local governments are still figuring out how best to influence policy debates and work with international partners.

"We don't have a separate foreign policy. We have initiatives and city-to-city cooperation," said Hachigian, who leads a seven-person foreign affairs team that includes former Pentagon and State Department officials. She said she has been flooded with applications from Foreign Service officers who over the first 11 months of the Trump administration have fled the State Department.

Garcetti's discussions with foreign leaders at home and overseas often focus on disaster response, trade, water conservation, homelessness and sustainability.

"We can create ties that could be useful and some consolation, given the difficulties that our foreign counterparts are having with Washington," she said.

In Brussels, Brown got the welcome of a global leader, delivering an address in the vast European Parliament hemicycle from the same rostrum as German Chancellor Angela Merkel when she is in town. Brown commanded applause at a Vatican environment conference; joined the Democratic governors of Washington, Oregon and Virginia at the Bonn climate gathering; and was feted by E.U. ministers for his efforts to combat rising greenhouse gases.

Brown said that he was happy to take on the role of a U.S. emissary even if he cannot negotiate treaties.

"I don't think we can confine our thinking just to federal employees," Brown told a small group of reporters.

"I have an opportunity to talk to a lot of national leaders, and so that's good," he said. Contact between U.S. states and other countries can be "helpful and important, because you have to keep talking. This business of yelling at each other across the ocean is not good."

The trip followed the California governor's June decision to sign a joint statement with the German government on climate cooperation, an unusual move by a U.S. state and an entire nation to work together to fight rising temperatures. Next September, Brown plans to host a global climate summit in San Francisco intended to support the same Paris climate agreement that Trump plans to exit.

Top officials who met with Brown said they were delighted to encounter a friendly American voice.

"The engagement against climate change must be global," said European Parliament President Antonio Tajani as he spoke at a news conference alongside Brown and senior European officials. "In the United States, there are several governors working in the right direction, even if the Trump government decided to change the line. What they are trying to do in the government of Mr. Brown is very interesting."




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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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Monoriu

Quote from: Oexmelin on November 19, 2017, 03:55:29 PM
Look up that John Oliver bit where he compares Trump's speech patterns to the iPhone's autocorrect suggestions...

I got a good laugh out of that  :lol:

jimmy olsen

Alabama media tells Moore to put up or shut up


It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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mongers

Stopped clock or broken record?

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@realDonaldTrump
   
Marshawn Lynch of the NFL's Oakland Raiders stands for the Mexican Anthem and sits down to boos for our National Anthem. Great disrespect! Next time NFL should suspend him for remainder of season. Attendance and ratings way down.

3:25 AM - 20 Nov 2017


"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

jimmy olsen

Quote from: mongers on November 20, 2017, 07:03:39 AM
Stopped clock or broken record?

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@realDonaldTrump
   
Marshawn Lynch of the NFL's Oakland Raiders stands for the Mexican Anthem and sits down to boos for our National Anthem. Great disrespect! Next time NFL should suspend him for remainder of season. Attendance and ratings way down.

3:25 AM - 20 Nov 2017

Playing for the Raiders is punishment enough. Pats flat out massacred them.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: mongers on November 20, 2017, 07:03:39 AM
Stopped clock or broken record?

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@realDonaldTrump
   
Marshawn Lynch of the NFL's Oakland Raiders stands for the Mexican Anthem and sits down to boos for our National Anthem. Great disrespect! Next time NFL should suspend him for remainder of season. Attendance and ratings way down.

3:25 AM - 20 Nov 2017


Donald Trump: tough on anthem sitters, soft on pedophilia.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Valmy

He is glad he has the NFL around to deflect with.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

mongers

Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
He is glad he has the NFL around to deflect with.

How to confuse Trump;

Kim Jong buys an NFL franchise and enforces N.K style reverence towards state symbols.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on November 20, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
He is glad he has the NFL around to deflect with.

So long as there are non-whites to attack he's fine.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Surprising no one

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/20/report_h_r_mcmaster_disparaged_trump_s_intelligence_at_private_dinner.html

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Over a July dinner with Oracle CEO Safra Catz—who has been mentioned as a candidate for several potential administration jobs—McMaster bluntly trashed his boss, said the sources, four of whom told BuzzFeed News they heard about the exchange directly from Catz. The top national security official dismissed the president variously as an "idiot" and a "dope" with the intelligence of a "kindergartner," the sources said.

A sixth source who was not familiar with the details of the dinner told BuzzFeed News that McMaster had made similarly derogatory comments about Trump's intelligence to him in private, including that the president lacked the necessary brainpower to understand the matters before the National Security Council.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

QuoteThe Nationalist's Delusion
Trump's supporters backed a time-honored American political tradition, disavowing racism while promising to enact a broad agenda of discrimination.
...

While other factors also led to Trump's victory [...] had racism been toxic to the American electorate, Trump's candidacy would not have been viable.

Nearly a year into his presidency, Trump has reneged or faltered on many of his biggest campaign promises—on renegotiating nafta, punishing China, and replacing the Affordable Care Act with something that preserves all of its popular provisions but with none of its drawbacks. But his commitment to endorsing state violence to remake the country into something resembling an idealized past has not wavered.

...

When you look at Trump's strength among white Americans of all income levels, but his weakness among Americans struggling with poverty, the story of Trump looks less like a story of working-class revolt than a story of white backlash. And the stories of struggling white Trump supporters look less like the whole truth than a convenient narrative—one that obscures the racist nature of that backlash, instead casting it as a rebellion against an unfeeling establishment that somehow includes working-class and poor people who happen not to be white.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/