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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: derspiess on February 27, 2017, 04:55:34 PM
Okay.  Is it still shrimp cocktail when it's just a bunch of shrimp laid out on a tray with a bowl of cocktail sauce?  Or does it have to be served in the cocktail glass thingie?

Thingie, IMO.

celedhring

Yeah, the cocktail glass is what gives it the tacky outdated fanciness feel.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on February 27, 2017, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2017, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 27, 2017, 03:54:55 PM
Trump is dead wrong on the steak thing, but keep in mind his favorite food is meatloaf and prefers hamburgers to steak anyway.

Always the "yeah, but" surrogate.

No.  Just saying he's not sophisticated and you guys shouldn't expect too much out of him.

Oh, we know that;  the problem is that he knows that as well, and he knows that we know--which is the lifelong driving force behind the very insecurity that brings us to this point in time, and may well result in our extinction as a species.

Razgovory

On the other hand, if the shrimp are still alive and wriggling on tooth picks, it's not considered passe.
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dps

Quote from: derspiess on February 27, 2017, 03:54:55 PM

his favorite food is meatloaf

He is old.  What do you expect?  Old people have bad taste in food, probably because a lot of them have lost their teeth and can't chew a lot of good foods, and their taste buds probably don't work so well anymore, either.

Ed Anger

Hell I like meat loaf and well done steak.

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Admiral Yi


jimmy olsen

Lol  :lol:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-interpreters-donald-trump-translate-struggle-us-president-white-house-speech-talking-style-a7596986.html

QuoteJapanese interpreters are struggling to translate Donald Trump


'If we translated his words as they are, we would end up making ourselves sound stupid.'

Lucy Pasha-Robinson


Translators around the world are struggling to interpret Donald Trump's unique speaking style with the Japanese finding it particularly "nightmarish" to translate what they call "Trumpese".

English-Japanese interpreters are reportedly struggling to follow the US President's speeches, with many highlighting the contrast in style with his predecessor Barack Obama who was recognised as a great orator.

"He rarely speaks logically, and he only emphasises one side of things as if it were the absolute truth. There are lots of moments when I suspected his assertions were factually dubious," interpreter Chikako Tsuruta told The Japan Times.

"He is so overconfident and yet so logically unconvincing that my interpreter friends and I often joke that if we translated his words as they are, we would end up making ourselves sound stupid."


Ms Tsuruta, who routinely covers US news as an interpreter for CNN, ABC and CBS, raises the important issue dividing the translation community - whether controversial rhetoric should be toned down by the interpreter.

Some believe inflammatory language should be neutralised while others remain adamant that translators should not interfere with tone or register.

However, the difficulty of translating Mr Trump does not necessarily arise from the language he uses.

A Carnegie Mellon University Language Technologies Institute (LTI) "readability analysis" of presidential campaign speeches revealed last year that the former real-estate mogul's lexical complexity was the lowest of any of his rival candidates or past US presidents.

Experienced broadcast interpreter Miwako Hibi said it was "very hard" to follow Mr Trump's train of thought as he speaks.

She told The Japan Times of her feeling of dread while she was translating Mr Trump's victory speech live in November 2016.

"When he suddenly said 'Reince is a superstar,' I was literally thrown off. Only after the camera zoomed in on the face of a 'Reince' did I realise who Trump was talking about, and I hastily added, for the sake of the audience, that it's actually 'Reince Priebus, the Republican National Committee chairman,'" Ms Hibi said.

"The convenient thing about the Japanese language, however, is that it tends to do away with a subject in a sentence, so in this particular case, I first translated 'superstar' without clarifying who Trump was referring to, and carried on like this until I got a fuller picture."

However his reference to "secretariat," threw her, thinking he was referring to Mr Preibus by another name.

"I mistranslated that one," she said. "It didn't even occur to me that he was talking about a race horse. ... It's really hard to follow his train of thought."

For retired interpreter Kumiko Torikai, when a subject is making racist or misogynistic comments a translator's job becomes complicated - one of the reasons she decided to leave the profession in the 1980s.

"As an interpreter, your job is to translate the words of a speaker exactly as they are, no matter how heinous and what an outrageous liar you find the speaker to be," she said.

"You set aside all your personal emotions and become the speaker yourself. It's a really tough thing, not being allowed to demonstrate your own judgement about what is right and what is wrong. And that's why I quit."

However, she insisted: "If Trump is not making sense, you don't get to make sense, either. If his language is coarse, that's the way you translate him."
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Ed Anger

Now if the meat loaf has giant chunks of onion and peppers, I'll hurl. Cut that shit fine.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 27, 2017, 06:38:33 PM
Now if the meat loaf has giant chunks of onion and peppers, I'll hurl. Cut that shit fine.

The fuck, man.  That's how you know it's homemade, and not from the Meatloaf-Industrial Complex.

Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2017, 07:08:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 27, 2017, 06:38:33 PM
Now if the meat loaf has giant chunks of onion and peppers, I'll hurl. Cut that shit fine.

The fuck, man.  That's how you know it's homemade, and not from the Meatloaf-Industrial Complex.

I KNOW HOW TO USE A FOOD PROCESSOR.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive


dps

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 27, 2017, 06:36:29 PM
No need to dis meatloaf.  <_<

I'm not.  I like meatloaf, but it's not my favorite food.  If it's yours, you're old.

derspiess

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