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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2017, 07:24:33 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?tid=pm_politics_pop

QuotePresident Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks
The Washington Post
By Philip Bump February 6 at 2:55 PM


"You've seen what happened in Paris, and Nice. All over Europe, it's happening," he said to the assembled military leaders. "It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it. They have their reasons, and you understand that."


The comment immediately harked back to comments from senior adviser Kellyanne Conway on MSNBC last week.

"I bet it's brand-new information to people that President Obama had a six-month ban on the Iraqi refugee program after two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized and were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre," she said. "Most people don't know that because it didn't get covered."

It was brand-new information to people because there was no "Bowling Green massacre." Conway had referred to the supposed terrorist attack previously, including in response to a question posed by TMZ. But the two Iraqis arrested in Bowling Green, Ky., in 2011 never committed an attack in the United States. She later admitted that she'd misspoken.

Trump's comment goes far further than Conway's, though. Her statement that "it didn't get covered" probably referred to the alleged "six-month ban" from the Obama administration. (That this, too, didn't happen has been somewhat swept under the rug.) Trump is positing that the media actively suppresses news of terrorist attacks to fulfill a political agenda.

It's certainly true that not every terrorist attack receives broad coverage in the national media. FiveThirtyEight looked at the likelihood that a terrorist attack in a foreign country would be covered by the New York Times, looking at coverage of 40,129 attacks from 1968 to 2009. Not every attack received coverage over that period. Last spring, the Los Angeles Times set out to log every single terrorist attack in the month of April, counting 180 attacks that killed 858 people. Not every one of those attacks made your local nightly newscast.

But filtering what to cover is very different than suppressing information. On any given day, local newspapers and news broadcasts decide what to spend resources on. If your home is burglarized, it may not make the cut. This probably isn't because the Channel 5 news director has a vendetta against you; it's that there are limited resources.

Trump's comment is very much in line with comments he made last June about President Barack Obama.

"Look guys, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart or has something else in mind," Trump said about Obama's response to the attack at a gay nightclub in Orlando. "And the something else in mind — people can't believe it. People cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words radical Islamic terrorism. There's something going on."

The clear implication: Obama is on the side of the terrorists. Trump didn't quite say that the media was siding with the terrorists, just that the media would happily ignore terrorism if it made Trump look bad.

Interestingly, Trump himself ignored the mass shooting that occurred at a mosque in Quebec last week, killing six people. White House press secretary Sean Spicer told the media that the president and the Canadian prime minister had spoken, but Trump himself declined to weigh in. (Spicer cited the attack mostly as somehow validating Trump's immigration policies.)

Trump did tweet about another attack.

    A new radical Islamic terrorist has just attacked in Louvre Museum in Paris. Tourists were locked down. France on edge again. GET SMART U.S.

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 3, 2017

In that one, no one was killed.

Trump has consistently seen attacks like that in Quebec — committed by a young man who espoused anti-Muslim politics and defended Trump online — as isolated incidents from mentally disturbed individuals, while attacks by Muslims are part of a broader pattern spurred by radical Islamism. He sees an institution behind attacks by Muslims that he doesn't see behind attacks like that in Quebec or in Charleston in 2015. That helps explain why he is willing to focus the country's anti-terrorism efforts solely on terrorism committed in the name of Islam: He doesn't see how other threats are systemic.

With his comments on Monday, Trump implied that the media is complicit in making terrorists successful. It's part of a recent pattern of suggesting that others are standing in the way of his terrorism-fighting efforts, which includes disparaging a federal judge who halted his immigration executive order.

Conway's comments about Bowling Green earned her an enormous amount of public mockery — an undue amount, given the likelihood that her comments were a mistake rather than an intentional lie. Trump's comments are of an entirely different order and magnitude.

Trump's relationship with the media has never been strong during his time in politics. But he's never before tried to push the media into the "against us" circle alongside those who commit acts of terrorism — at least, not so explicitly.

Class "A" Jack Knob.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

mongers

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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

Supposed speaker of UK congress makes a big mistake, I do not forget BAD MANNERS!

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Ideologue

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Quote from: mongers on February 06, 2017, 07:34:35 PM
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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

Supposed speaker of UK congress makes a big mistake, I do not forget BAD MANNERS!


Yip, twitter threat Ooooooo. That UK speaker don't give two shits.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

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Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
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It's gonna be a long 4 years.

:lol: No, no it won't.


LaCroix

you can't say speaker doesn't deserve it. he went too far with his public(!) comments. trump is only getting even

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Quote from: LaCroix on February 06, 2017, 07:58:08 PM
you can't say speaker doesn't deserve it. he went too far with his public(!) comments. trump is only getting even


Oh that's classy. You fail again.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Ideologue

Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Admiral Yi

My Senator responds to my email:

QuoteDear Mr. [Yi]:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me.  As your Senator, it is important for me to hear from you.

In your message, you expressed support for a movement to impeach President Trump.  As you may know, the Constitution dictates that the House of Representatives has the sole power of initiating impeachment.  Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution states that "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from office in impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Those are the sole bases for impeachment.

You should be aware that the impeachment process begins in the House of Representatives where the House Judiciary Committee deliberates on whether to initiate an impeachment inquiry. If the Committee adopts a resolution seeking authority from the entire House to conduct the inquiry, then the Committee conducts an inquiry. At the conclusion of this inquiry, if grounds for impeachment are found, Articles of Impeachment are prepared and must be approved by the full Judiciary Committee.

If the Judiciary Committee favorably reports the Articles of Impeachment, the entire House then considers and debates the Articles. A majority of House members is required to pass each Article. Once a single Article is approved, the President is officially "impeached" and subject to a trial to be conducted by the United States Senate. The Senate conducts the trial on the approved Articles, and at the conclusion of the trial, the Senate votes on the removal of the President or Vice President. This vote requires a 2/3 majority of the Senate to formally remove the President or Vice President.  Thus, as a Senator, the Constitution limits my role in the impeachment process by requiring the House to begin impeachment proceedings.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may be of assistance with this or any federal matter.  My offices in Iowa, as well as in Washington, D.C., are here to serve you. Keep in touch!

Sincerely,

Chuck Grassley                 

Oexmelin

Dear Mr Yi,

Please accept this computer-generated letter quoting in extenso things you already know, and absolving me of any political responsibility. Wouldn't want that from an elected official.

Sincerely,

Generic Republican.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Oexmelin on February 06, 2017, 08:27:51 PM
Dear Mr Yi,

Please accept this computer-generated letter quoting in extenso things you already know, and absolving me of any political responsibility. Wouldn't want that from an elected official.

Sincerely,

Generic Republican.

One of the talking head shows the other day was saying not to email but to call, apparently they take that more seriously precisely because the response can't be automated.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2017, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on February 06, 2017, 08:27:51 PM
Dear Mr Yi,

Please accept this computer-generated letter quoting in extenso things you already know, and absolving me of any political responsibility. Wouldn't want that from an elected official.

Sincerely,

Generic Republican.

One of the talking head shows the other day was saying not to email but to call, apparently they take that more seriously precisely because the response can't be automated.

Give them time. It will be an automated circular call.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".