What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[garbon]

What does that even mean? So if Columbus is a sanctuary city Ohio State would have all its research grants pulled?

Correct, depending on how the Trump administration defines sanctuary city and interprets the law.

I strongly suspect it won't go anywhere.  Way, way, way too much friendly fire.

'Sorry State Government, we will stop construction on this Interstate Highway project because it runs through a Sanctuary City for a few miles.'

Yeah.

[Grey Fox]

I am getting really pissed at all this shit.

He has not been in power for a week and the retardation and fascism shit is stronger than during the campaign, already.

With all the shit going down in the UK and over the world in general: what the fuck, people?!

Muslim terrorism has won.

[The Minsky Moment]

It's a 7 page executive order, not a tweet.  Someone put some thought into it.  Admittedly probably not Trump.  One guess would be Bannon, which makes it more worrisome not less.

ah, well, either way as you said it depends on interpretation. if it's overly broad and encompasses too much, it'll be defeated in the courts

Sure.  My point was only the hypocrisy of lambasting Obama for over-reaching executive orders, and then immediately sending out this.

[garbon]

My last passport took two days. Go to the registry office section of the town hall, fill out form and attach previously taken biometric photo, sign & pay. Pick up passport two days later after getting a text message that it is done.

Cool. Not sure what that has to do with Meri noting difficulties in the US.

Shows that a poorer, less advanced country than America can do it. Comparison is a common technique in arguments.

Meri's argument wasn't that it was impossible. She was noting that how good we manage passports doesn't bode hope for us managing a national ID scheme. Your anecdote seems to only underline how poorly the US manages passports.

[The Minsky Moment]

That was just an example, I seriously doubt Columbus is actually a Sanctuary City

Now that you mention it . . .
Columbus can be found on some lists as a soft sanctuary city, b/c apparently they have a policy (quite typical), that they do not forward information to the Feds if an illegal is detained on a misdemeanor.  Arguably that doesn't violate the federal law if it is read narrowly, but the TrumpAdmin is not showing signs of interpreting their immigration enforcement authority narrowly.

[Syt]

Mexican president has called off next week's meeting with Trump.

[Oexmelin]

'Sorry State Government, we will stop construction on this Interstate Highway project because it runs through a Sanctuary City for a few miles.'

Couldn't you make many exceptions to the general principle of the law / EO.

[garbon]

Mexican president has called off next week's meeting with Trump.

[The Larch]

What does that even mean? So if Columbus is a sanctuary city Ohio State would have all its research grants pulled?

Correct, depending on how the Trump administration defines sanctuary city and interprets the law.

This sounds like the kind of good government I can support.

That was just an example, I seriously doubt Columbus is actually a Sanctuary City

Austin is, actually.

[Valmy]

Probably for the best. Nieto meeting Trump would have been a comedy of errors.

Holy shit. Nieto, Trudeau, and Trump. Has there ever been a worse threesome running North America?

[Grey Fox]

Yes, quite often.

in 1868, it's Johnson, Macdonald & Juarez.

[Valmy]

Austin is, actually.

Well yeah, we are screwed. The City Council will not back down either so this should be fun.

[grumbler]

You are the richest and most technologically advanced country in the history of mankind. Lesser countries were able to introduce ID schemes. What you lack is a will to reasonable governance, not capability.

Or the US lacks the will to unreasonable governance, depending on how important you think it is that the state be able to deny services to anyone who cannot prove themselves entitled to it.

The US has few government services where the distinction between citizens and non-citizens is important, so few in the US believe that the 'show me your papers' approach to government services is worthwhile. YMMD, but you are arrogant to assume that your country's system is the only one that represents "reasonable governance."

[mongers]

Based on bullshit during the campaign and what he and his cronies are now doing there in power, I've got a fairly good view of what a Trump presidency will be like.

How do you others feel it?

And if so, has the thread run its course?

Maybe a thread rename or a new one for this administration, might I suggest 'Trumpland' ?

[Valmy]

but you are arrogant to assume that your country's system is the only one that represents "reasonable governance."

Damn grumbler. He just said his country was a 'lesser country'. How much humility do you demand?