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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 15, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2017, 06:27:26 PM
I would be much more worried about the person that never, ever laughs.  Like Donald Trump.

Didn't he laugh after his dead-on cerebral palsy imitation?

No.  No, he did not.

dps

Quote from: DGuller on January 15, 2017, 05:50:34 PM
Quote from: dps on January 15, 2017, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: DGuller on January 15, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2017, 04:40:08 PM
And you say I'm the idiot.
I do, but what does this have to do with anything?

It's a "pot, meet kettle" thing.
Let me guess how this is going to go:  you consider yourself to be an intelligent person, you know many intelligent people, and I'm no intelligent person?  Or do you have a different script in mind this time?

As grumbler said, you're talking nonsense.  What you posted was idiotic.  That doesn't necessarily make you an idiot (we probably all talk nonsense at times, either here or IRL), but it does leave you less room to call Derspiess an idiot (which I'm not sure you've ever done, but he seems to think so).

DGuller

Quote from: dps on January 15, 2017, 08:13:26 PM
As grumbler said, you're talking nonsense.  What you posted was idiotic.  That doesn't necessarily make you an idiot (we probably all talk nonsense at times, either here or IRL), but it does leave you less room to call Derspiess an idiot (which I'm not sure you've ever done, but he seems to think so).
What I posted was a musing.  It's very hard for such a post to be idiotic, whether you agree with it or not.  It has to have some pretty serious failure in logic to truly be considered idiotic enough to reflect on my intelligence. 

In any case, my intelligence has very little to do with whether I have room to call derspiess an idiot.  His portfolio speaks for itself, one doesn't have to be as intelligent as you are to call him out, pretty much everyone bar maybe Siege has enough of a standing to call him out for his idiocy.

Razgovory

Eh, I can kind of see where DG is coming from.  I think there needs to be a new type of liberalism.  A bit of a more action-oriented form.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

I look forward to a more action oriented right wing.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

FunkMonk

Agree. We need more Bolshevism in America.
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Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on January 15, 2017, 09:01:22 PM
Eh, I can kind of see where DG is coming from.  I think there needs to be a new type of liberalism.  A bit of a more action-oriented form.

Yeah I can too; I think for some 'liberal' voters and progressive people, whinging about Trump and making fun of him, will be their only response to whatever he and his clique enact; if they want to give their disdain any meaning they should do what Obama said in his last speech, that is stand for office and be part of politics.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on January 15, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
I look forward to a more action oriented right wing.

You need to be looking forward to mandatory birth control. 

CountDeMoney

Der Furor wants less press, more Nuremberg rallies.


QuoteReince Priebus: News conferences could be moved from White House
The Washington Post

Incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus said Sunday that news conferences traditionally held in the White House briefing room could be moved to a larger space, not in the White House, to allow for "more press, more coverage from all over the country."

Priebus spoke on ABC's "This Week" hours after Esquire magazine published a report that suggested that the media could be permanently evicted from their longtime space in the White House itself to other buildings nearby. In that report, incoming White House Communications Director Sean Spicer acknowledged there has been "some discussion about how to do it."


"The only thing that's been discussed is whether or not the initial press conferences are going to be in that small press room," Priebus said Sunday, calling the 49-seat briefing room "very, very tiny" and suggesting a larger space in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building -- located just west of the White House -- could better accommodate scores of reporters who want to cover the Trump administration.

"You can fit four times the amount of people in the press conference, allowing more press, more coverage from all over the country," he said. "Some of this is getting way out of whack, and I think people should be encouraged that we have so many people who want to participate."

He did not mention evicting journalists from their workspace in the White House, located steps from the West Wing offices of the president and senior administration officials. The Esquire report quoted an anonymous "senior official" referring to the media as "the opposition party" and saying: "I want 'em out of the building. We are taking back the press room."

Jeff Mason, a Reuters reporter who chairs the White House Correspondents' Association, said he met Sunday with Spicer to get more details about Trump's plans and said the association would "object strenuously to any move that would shield the president and his advisers from the scrutiny of an on-site White House press corps."

After the meeting, Mason confirmed that Trump's team is considering moving the daily briefings out of the briefing room to "a larger facility on the White House complex."

What remains unclear is whether Trump is considering moving the press working space out of the White House proper into other parts of the complex. Given that direct access to senior administration officials is "critical to transparency and to journalists' ability to do their jobs," Mason said he "made clear that the WHCA would view it as unacceptable if the incoming administration sought to move White House reporters out of the press work space behind the press briefing room."

Spicer, he said, "agreed to discuss any additional changes that the incoming administration considers with the WHCA ahead of time" and also "expressed concern that journalists adhere to a high level of decorum at press briefings and press conferences."

Vice President-elect Mike Pence also addressed the Esquire report in a CBS "Face the Nation" interview aired Sunday. Like Priebus, he said any change would be to "accommodate the increased interest" in the new administration and said "no decision has been made" on whether to do so.

It's not unheard of for an incoming administration to consider changes to the media working space in the White House, but since the current press room arrangement was formalized during the Nixon administration, no president has followed through on changes that could be interpreted as an effort to shield oneself from public scrutiny.

George Stephanopoulos, who questioned Priebus on Sunday, wrote about an abortive plan from then-first lady Hillary Clinton to convert the White House press office back into an indoor swimming pool in "All Too Human," his memoir of his time as a senior Clinton aide.

"Barbara Bush told her we should show you guys who's boss right from the start," Stephanopoulos wrote, quoting himself speaking to reporters at the time. "Easy for her to say; she doesn't have to deal with you anymore."

LaCroix

Quote from: DGuller on January 15, 2017, 08:48:26 PMWhat I posted was a musing.  It's very hard for such a post to be idiotic, whether you agree with it or not.  It has to have some pretty serious failure in logic to truly be considered idiotic enough to reflect on my intelligence. 

In any case, my intelligence has very little to do with whether I have room to call derspiess an idiot.  His portfolio speaks for itself, one doesn't have to be as intelligent as you are to call him out, pretty much everyone bar maybe Siege has enough of a standing to call him out for his idiocy.

I think it can be somewhat difficult to gauge a person's actual intelligence from forum posts. this could be a lesson that you shouldn't be so quick to judge others' intelligence based on their posts

DGuller

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Quote from: LaCroix on January 16, 2017, 12:33:25 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 15, 2017, 08:48:26 PMWhat I posted was a musing.  It's very hard for such a post to be idiotic, whether you agree with it or not.  It has to have some pretty serious failure in logic to truly be considered idiotic enough to reflect on my intelligence. 

In any case, my intelligence has very little to do with whether I have room to call derspiess an idiot.  His portfolio speaks for itself, one doesn't have to be as intelligent as you are to call him out, pretty much everyone bar maybe Siege has enough of a standing to call him out for his idiocy.

I think it can be somewhat difficult to gauge a person's actual intelligence from forum posts. this could be a lesson that you shouldn't be so quick to judge others' intelligence based on their posts
It's not more difficult on the forum than in any other setting.  The tricky thing about this endeavor is that you need to be intelligent yourself to be able to judge intelligence of others reliably.

Eddie Teach

The forum setting makes it much easier for Guller, as talking like this IRL would get him stuffed in a locker.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

LaCroix

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Quote from: DGuller on January 16, 2017, 01:12:35 AMIt's not more difficult on the forum than in any other setting.  The tricky thing about this endeavor is that you need to be intelligent yourself to be able to judge intelligence of others reliably.

sure it is. text alone makes it difficult to really gauge how someone speaks/thinks. (edit) plus, with internet forums, there's a greater likelihood people aren't posting with as much thought as they would IRL with some complex problem

DGuller

Quote from: LaCroix on January 16, 2017, 01:46:53 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 16, 2017, 01:12:35 AMIt's not more difficult on the forum than in any other setting.  The tricky thing about this endeavor is that you need to be intelligent yourself to be able to judge intelligence of others reliably.

sure it is. text alone makes it difficult to really gauge how someone speaks/thinks. (edit) plus, with internet forums, there's a greater likelihood people aren't posting with as much thought as they would IRL with some complex problem
It makes it much easier, actually.  Text allows you to express yourself much more thoroughly, so it's much harder to conceal when you really have nothing worthwhile to express.

And while it's true in theory that somebody can be really intelligent but choose to come off as a moron online, I don't know of any such people, and I have a hard time seeing why they would do so.  It doesn't take an effort to be intelligent, you either are or you aren't, so not being yourself sounds like the more difficult task.