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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on January 28, 2017, 09:02:09 PM
I have to say I am impressed at how faithful spicey and croix are - no matter what he does, they are going to the wall for him. That kind of loyalty to a leader is very valuable.

Indeed.  The argument that his followers don't really care that he cannot fulfill his campaign promises seems to be true. They are all stupid enough to vote for him, but may not all be stupid enough to believe anything he says.
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Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on January 28, 2017, 09:16:26 PM
Croix is just here to smugly tell us that the thing we are not actually saying is not true. He sure would put us in our place if we were doing what his dishonest posts claim we are doing.

LaC is just the first to live in the post-truth languish.  He doesn't lie, he simply states things that are only true in an alternate reality.

I'm enjoying this.  The alt-reality episodes in Stargate SG-1 were some of the best.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

mongers

Forget about the media, in very short order Trump will be bleating that the (independent) judiciary is the opposition or enemy in his tweets.
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Eddie Teach

Grumbler lives in the alt-reality where Stargate was watchable.  :P
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LaCroix

Quote from: grumbler on January 28, 2017, 10:16:53 PMLaC is just the first to live in the post-truth languish.  He doesn't lie, he simply states things that are only true in an alternate reality.

I'm enjoying this.  The alt-reality episodes in Stargate SG-1 were some of the best.

show me one post where I've supported trump

CountDeMoney


grumbler

Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 28, 2017, 10:19:14 PM
Grumbler lives in the alt-reality where Stargate was watchable.  :P

For what it was (light-hearted SF with some serious moments), it was a great show when it was on Showtime.  I never saw the later seasons because I didn't think it would work without Richard Dean Anderson.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Ed Anger

Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 28, 2017, 10:19:14 PM
Grumbler lives in the alt-reality where Stargate was watchable.  :P

Movie or TV series?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on January 28, 2017, 10:25:16 PM
I never saw the later seasons because I didn't think it would work without Richard Dean Anderson.

You were right.

grumbler

The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Ed Anger

Quote from: grumbler on January 28, 2017, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 28, 2017, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 28, 2017, 10:19:14 PM
Grumbler lives in the alt-reality where Stargate was watchable.  :P

Movie or TV series?

TV Series.

I sorta liked those. Better than Babylon 5 at least.
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CountDeMoney

QuoteTrump signs three more executive actions
By Nikita Vladimirov and Mallory Shelbourne - 01/28/17 04:55 PM EST
thehill.com

President Trump signed three executive actions on Saturday afternoon focusing on lobbying, a reorganization of the National Security Council and a plan to defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

The executive action caps off a busy first week as Trump issued a flurry of orders on ObamaCare repeal, withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and a ban on many refugees from the Middle East and Africa.

"People have been talking about this for a long time, like many years," Trump said in front of cameras in the Oval Office as he signed a memorandum dealing with the National Security Council (NSC) and Homeland Security Council.

Text of the NSC memorandum, which was released after Trump signed it, justified changes to the council by stating that "security threats facing the United States in the 21st century transcend international boundaries."

"Accordingly, the United States Government's decision-making structures and processes to address these challenges must remain equally adaptive and transformative," the memorandum stated.

Trump said that directive focused on "efficiency and I think a lot of additional safety."


Trump also signed an executive order banning administration officials who leave government from lobbying those federal agencies for five years, fulfilling a campaign pledge. Former President Barack Obama had signed his own executive order barring political appointees from lobbying former coworkers for two years.

Trump's order also includes a lifetime ban on administration officials working on behalf of a foreign government or political party.

His third directive signed Saturday was a memorandum giving military leaders 30 days to construct and present a report outlining the U.S. strategy for defeating ISIS.

"This is the plan to defeat the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. "I think it's going to be very successful."

His memorandum calls for a "comprehensive plan to defeat ISIS," stating that "there can be no accommodation or negotiation" with the group.

The directive recommends "changes to any United States rules of engagement" and other policy restrictions, an exploration of alternative strategies to "isolate and delegitimize ISIS and its radical Islamist ideology," a strengthening of the U.S.-led anti-ISIS coalition and an exploration of methods to limit the group's financial support.


It's unclear how exactly the plan would depart from past approaches to the group. Saturday's document mentioned public diplomacy, information operations and cyber strategies as alternative approaches for combating ISIS.

The directive also calls for "a detailed strategy to robustly fund" the plan and states that it should be submitted to the president by the secretary of Defense, James Mattis, though calls for several other Cabinet officials to collaborate in developing the plan.

Trump has repeatedly pledged to defeat ISIS and on the campaign trail criticized Obama and his Democratic presidential rival Hillary Clinton for not doing enough to push back against the terrorist group.

"OK, that's big stuff," Trump said after signing the three orders Saturday. "Have a good weekend."
:lol:

Trump signed the documents one day after signing an order barring Syrian refugees and halting the United States' refugee resettlement program for four months, stirring backlash.

That order, handed down Friday, also denies entry for individuals from seven predominantly Muslim countries for 90 days – Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Libya – affecting roughly 134 million people.

Various Democratic lawmakers and civil-rights groups said the order targets Muslims, pointing to Trump's admission in a Friday interview that he would prioritize Christian refugees for resettlement.

"Make no mistake — this is a Muslim ban," Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said in a statement Friday.

Trump insisted that the executive order he signed on Friday is "not a Muslim ban."

"It's working out very nicely," Trump said, as reports indicated that officials were scrambling to implement the order.


"We're going to have a very very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years."

Two refugees from Iraq were detained late Friday at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, though one was released Saturday afternoon.

Berkut

I don't understand.

Trump assured us all the Trump had a sure fire plan for beating ISIS, he just wasn't going to be dumb enough to reveal it before the election.

Why is is he asking the military for such a plan now? Shouldn't he just be telling them what the plan is so they can execute it?

Spicey, tell us how this is more of your dear leaders honest and straight talking! I want to know what I missed!
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CountDeMoney

For those of you that actually expect us to live through all this, Der Furor removed the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from the National Security Council's Principals Committee, and replaced them with Steve Bannon and Rinse Grievous.

Just so you know.

Ed Anger

Bannon wore a suit today instead of his homeless Vietnam Vet outfit he normally likes to wear.
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