What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[dps]

I could, yea. when I'm firing off languish posts from the hip, I don't always stop to consider points

Well, yeah, that's been showing a lot recently.  You might wanna re-think that posting strategy. 

[LaCroix]

Well, yeah, that's been showing a lot recently.  You might wanna re-think that posting strategy.

I'm thinking some of it might be partly caused by chantix, but oh well, there you go

"Meh, it happens" - no, there is no precedent. The world will not abandon the US, but parts of the system the US built can be gone after four years of neglect or especially active US opposition. The US currently offers to champion the rules-based system that orders international affairs. It has gained trust. If it doesn't uphold that anymore, that system will be damaged and the US will no longer be seen as a benevolent hegemon, but as just another powerful country and will get treated like China or so. Others will not find a substitute for the US, that's not the concern. The concern is that the value of the current system will just no longer be realized and we will all be poorer (not just in strict economic terms but in all spheres of international cooperation) than before. When countries work together they can realize mutual benefits, but Trump is moving towards a world where countries work against each other. That's because of his zero sum view of foreign policy, which is just wrong and does not correspond with reality.

sure there's precedent, like the kaiser and bismarck.  but no, I agree with a lot of this, except I think in the long term the current system will remain mostly the same, because it can't really change too permanently if countries want the current benefits. and a US president post-trump seeking rapprochement can provide that benefit, and I don't see why it would be rejected. countries might be wary toward the US, but how long does that last? if another trump doesn't come for a hundred years.. I mean it's only taken a generation for some to start liking russia

and this all assumes a likely bad case scenario where trump just shreds foreign relations all across the board. there is a possibility that might not happen, even if it's not plausible

[garbon]

Somebody edited the Wiki page for invertebrate to include Paul Ryan (alas, gone now)

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/wikipedia-invertebrate-page-edited-to-include-paul-ryan.html

[Syt]

Random geezer at inauguration gives much better speech than Trump did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnoKJUWuII

[Syt]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-greencard-idUSKBN15C0KX

Green card holders included in Trump ban: Homeland Security

People holding so-called green cards, making them legal permanent U.S. residents, are included in President Donald Trump's executive action temporarily barring people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, a Department of Homeland security spokeswoman said on Saturday.

"It will bar green card holders," Gillian Christensen, acting Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in an email.

[celedhring]

Yeah, apparently some Google employees have been barred from returning. Ridiculous that this applies to legal residents.

Also some guys from Iraq that had helped US forces there in exchange for US residence. Yeah, that will help the US find collaborators abroad.

[alfred russel]

It is almost as though they didn't think this through. I'm sure Trump will reflect on this, recognize the negative consequences to innocent people, admit he was wrong, and correct the mistake.

God bless America.

[CountDeMoney]

It is almost as though they didn't think this through. I'm sure Trump will reflect on this, recognize the negative consequences to innocent people, admit he was wrong, and correct the mistake.

[celedhring]

Shush. His mind is on more pressing matters:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  4 hhace 4 horas
The failing @nytimes has been wrong about me from the very beginning. Said I would lose the primaries, then the general election. FAKE NEWS!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  4 hhace 4 horas
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Thr coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost gas been so false and angry that the times actually apologized to its.....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  4 hhace 4 horas
...dwindling subscribers and readers.They got me wrong right from the beginning and still have not changed course, and never will. DISHONEST

[CountDeMoney]

We will never, ever stop hearing about the election.  Never.  Never, ever, ever.  Ever.

[DGuller]

They got Trump right.  They got the American people badly wrong.  Hell, almost everyone did, even ones not wearing rose-colored glasses.

[Razgovory]

And in celebration of Trump's executive order, someone lit a Mosque on fire.  http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-texas-mosque-destroyed-in-early-morning-blaze-cause-unknown-2017-1

[viper37]

And in celebration of Trump's executive order, someone lit a Mosque on fire.  http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-texas-mosque-destroyed-in-early-morning-blaze-cause-unknown-2017-1

There was no one inside.  Proof that Christians aren't evil.

[viper37]

There's probably no good reason to ban those 7 at this particular moment.

Indeed.  Utterly shameful.

Trump does not have business interests in these countries.  He has in the Muslim countries where there's no ban, however.
It's just a coincidence, of course.

[Syt]