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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tonitrus

I don't agree that it is all that independent.  Perhaps it once was, but there may be a few tails wagging the dog at this point.

Valmy

Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 02:21:24 PMUltimately I am not sure it matters who gets into these positions...as it will almost always end up being a yes-man of some flavor, as the appointment will always come from the same source.  The more colorful they are, perhaps the more likely they will self-destruct in a glorious way.


Well only in the sense that anybody who Trump appointed was likely to be horrible.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 02:29:52 PMI don't agree that it is all that independent.  Perhaps it once was, but there may be a few tails wagging the dog at this point.

I don't think Trump cares too much about refined food.  Nor do I think he cares all that much about disease control - or the lack thereof.  The new Secretary cares deeply about those things, so much so that he will prioritize healthy diet over medicine.

You have a better argument about intelligence - but I think there is more of a chance that the new Secretary has closer ties to Russia than Trump.  If the Secretary was just a mouth piece for Trump I would oddly feel better about that.

Tonitrus

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 02:29:52 PMI don't agree that it is all that independent.  Perhaps it once was, but there may be a few tails wagging the dog at this point.

I don't think Trump cares too much about refined food.  Nor do I think he cares all that much about disease control - or the lack thereof.  The new Secretary cares deeply about those things, so much so that he will prioritize healthy diet over medicine.

You have a better argument about intelligence - but I think there is more of a chance that the new Secretary has closer ties to Russia than Trump.  If the Secretary was just a mouth piece for Trump I would oddly feel better about that.

A lot can be gleaned from those who the POTUS had in the room during the campaign...specifically when watching the DNC convention.  That included (besides the current WH Chief of Staff); Tulsi Gabbard, Gaetz, and...Oliver Stone.  That says quite a lot about what would be indulged in foreign-policy wise.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 02:29:52 PMI don't agree that it is all that independent.  Perhaps it once was, but there may be a few tails wagging the dog at this point.

I don't think Trump cares too much about refined food.  Nor do I think he cares all that much about disease control - or the lack thereof.  The new Secretary cares deeply about those things, so much so that he will prioritize healthy diet over medicine.

You have a better argument about intelligence - but I think there is more of a chance that the new Secretary has closer ties to Russia than Trump.  If the Secretary was just a mouth piece for Trump I would oddly feel better about that.

A lot can be gleaned from those who the POTUS had in the room during the campaign...specifically when watching the DNC convention.  That included (besides the current WH Chief of Staff); Tulsi Gabbard, Gaetz, and...Oliver Stone.  That says quite a lot about what would be indulged in foreign-policy wise.

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garbon

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 04:46:45 PMStonewall has updated their official page to eliminate the existence of trans folks, their involvement in the Stonewall Uprising, and even have excised them from LGBTQ+ to now just being LGBQ+. I knew it was probably coming, but it is still a black day in the history of the NPS in my opinion.  :frusty:

What Stonewall?
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Sophie Scholl

Stonewall National Monument. The site of the Stonewall Uprising and environs that were designated an official National Park Service site in 2016.
Their site
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

garbon

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 04:52:31 PMStonewall National Monument. The site of the Stonewall Uprising and environs that were designated an official National Park Service site in 2016.
Their site

Got it. Well they are trash and that's not the Stonewall Inn's take. And we know our history even if they want to lie about it. :hug:
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Barrister

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 04:52:31 PMStonewall National Monument. The site of the Stonewall Uprising and environs that were designated an official National Park Service site in 2016.
Their site

For some reason I was thinking of the gay rights organization and thought that sounds crazy - but yeah if it's a NPS monument run by the Federal Government then I guess they can do that.

(Plus - Stonewall the group is based in Europe)
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