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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Syt

Read comments that Trump mentioned Putin called him to congratulate and that Russia denied that call happened. Trouble in paradise? :o
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HVC

Quote from: Syt on November 13, 2024, 12:55:40 PMRead comments that Trump mentioned Putin called him to congratulate and that Russia denied that call happened. Trouble in paradise? :o

Hard to pull the strings from behind the scenes when the puppet keeps proudly showing people the strings :P
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2024, 12:06:08 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 13, 2024, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2024, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: celedhring on November 13, 2024, 10:16:10 AMI also love the irony that the agency to make government smaller and more efficient will have *two* co-heads.

Or that we are creating an entirely new government department to make government smaller.

Right out of 'Yes Minister' there.
Come one, this is silly.  Lots of things in nature and engineering can be classified as subtraction by addition.  Can adding a component to an engine that requires additional energy make it more efficient?  Sure, if that component is ECU.  Let's not fall into the trap of mocking everything for right or wrong reasons, it looks like we'll have plenty of stuff to criticize for the most right of reasons.

I mean they are naming it DOGE dude. If they aren't taking anything seriously why should I?

But I am also referring to a pattern in these kinds of government reforms. How many government efficiency departments and so forth already exist? Tons.

I seem to recall (just as one example) that Clinton introduced some kind of government waste initiative when he came into office in 1993 and put Al Gore in charge of it.  It's a pretty standard "incoming new government" kind of proposal.
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Barrister

Quote from: Syt on November 13, 2024, 12:55:40 PMRead comments that Trump mentioned Putin called him to congratulate and that Russia denied that call happened. Trouble in paradise? :o

Russian media has reported that in a high-school-girl-like show of power Putin was waiting for Trump to call him.
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on November 13, 2024, 01:01:29 PMI seem to recall (just as one example) that Clinton introduced some kind of government waste initiative when he came into office in 1993 and put Al Gore in charge of it.  It's a pretty standard "incoming new government" kind of proposal.

Yes. There are tons of these sorts of offices and initiatives.

Well if Elon and Vivek want any advice, I understand the defense department wastes billions. But nobody is ever going to touch them.
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 13, 2024, 11:12:45 AMHe's also somehow in the top 20 players of Diablo IV (on election day, I guess he hasn't played since).
that's, apparently, fake news

Syt

Quote from: celedhring on November 13, 2024, 10:16:10 AMI also love the irony that the agency to make government smaller and more efficient will have *two* co-heads.

Stolen from Reddit:



:lol:
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celedhring


The Minsky Moment

The joking is fun but this isn't going to be a Yes Minister episode where the Orwellian named commission does nothing but make the problem slightly worse for more money.  Nor will it be the usual window dressing about "waste, fraud and abuse."  This is going to be a bunch of ill-meaning and ignorant amateurs gutting vital components of the federal government whose functions and operations they know nothing about. And replacing knowledgeable and experienced personnel with a smaller number of people even more ignorant than they are but fanatically loyal to Trump.

The joke is on all of us, I am afraid.
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celedhring

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 13, 2024, 03:15:14 PMThe joking is fun but this isn't going to be a Yes Minister episode where the Orwellian named commission does nothing but make the problem slightly worse for more money.  Nor will it be the usual window dressing about "waste, fraud and abuse."  This is going to be a bunch of ill-meaning and ignorant amateurs gutting vital components of the federal government whose functions and operations they know nothing about. And replacing knowledgeable and experienced personnel with a smaller number of people even more ignorant than they are but fanatically loyal to Trump.

The joke is on all of us, I am afraid.

Apparently the deadline for issuing their recommendations is July 4th 2026 (lol). With any luck, this gives them a short window to implement much at all before they (hopefully) lose control of Congress.

Barrister

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 13, 2024, 03:15:14 PMThe joking is fun but this isn't going to be a Yes Minister episode where the Orwellian named commission does nothing but make the problem slightly worse for more money.  Nor will it be the usual window dressing about "waste, fraud and abuse."  This is going to be a bunch of ill-meaning and ignorant amateurs gutting vital components of the federal government whose functions and operations they know nothing about. And replacing knowledgeable and experienced personnel with a smaller number of people even more ignorant than they are but fanatically loyal to Trump.

The joke is on all of us, I am afraid.

I saw something on Twitter/X from Vivek about just randomly firing 75% of civil servants (he used based on the digits of your social security number) and how great that would be.

I'm not American, obviously, but I can tell you how disastrous that would be around my line of work.  It would be bad.  Very bad.

I've been around - it's not that there isn't government waste and mismanagement.  But there's also a reason why it's hard to identify, and why overly simplistic solutions will never work.
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Crazy_Ivan80

rest assured that they won't be firing those people who need to get those subsidies to their companies

Zoupa

He just picked Matt Gaetz as attorney general and Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence lol. You guys are so cooked. A pedo and a russian asset.

Barrister

Quote from: Zoupa on November 13, 2024, 03:45:09 PMHe just picked Matt Gaetz as attorney general and Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence lol. You guys are so cooked. A pedo and a russian asset.

We're all cooked, you mean.

Good grief.  His first few picks seemed refreshingly normal.  But this (plus the DOD guy) are right out of whack-a-doodle-land.
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