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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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HisMajestyBOB

Best case, President Biden gives us 4 years to personally prepare for President Trump Jr/Steve King/Richard Spencer in 2024.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Oexmelin on April 07, 2020, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Yeah I totally agree. There needs to be electoral consequences down the ballot paper or they'll continue down this path and not learn (it's another thing where I think the real comparison isn't Johnson = Trump, but Corbyn = Trump).

I'm not confident that'll happen.

It will not happen, because they have learned what they needed to learn: that their conservatism has become synonymous with their identity. That whatever comes next will not be them. They have been saying for years it's a fight to the death, and have make it so. It's the culmination of a 30 year movement that has refashioned Conservatism itself.  Therefore, it needs to die. To reinvent themselves, Conservatives will need to reinvent Conservatism.
I think part of it is there's a lot of money to be made by turning politics into an identity and then keeping people at a sort of constant pitch of panic/outrage. It's another similarity that I think there is with Corbyn was there were a lot of grifters in the Corbyn "alternative media" circle - some were just pure click bait so writers were paid depending how many clicks their pieces got which encouraged outrage and conspiracies; others were selling merch and did very well every time something outrageous happend to them on the mainstream media.

What was sad and sort of shocking was how there went from being cordon sanitaire around some of these on the left, to seeing them being regularly shared in the last year or so. You'd look at it and think has anything really changed at x source since they were running Rothschild conspiracy theories, but now they're being retweeted by Labour MPs.

The US right is just far further along that line and has developed an entire industry around it. Ultimately there's a huge difference betwen what sells copy and what's good for a political movement.
Let's bomb Russia!

Habbaku

That piece of shit Modly seems to be gone. :yeah:
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 07, 2020, 01:30:48 PM
Best case, President Biden gives us 4 years to personally prepare for President Trump Jr/Steve King/Richard Spencer in 2024.

Why would we pick somebody whose only claim to fame be that his dad is a loser?
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Maximus

Quote from: Habbaku on April 07, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
That piece of shit Modly seems to be gone. :yeah:
Is this the first time a member of the administration has suffered consequences for their actions due to public pressure?

Probably not, but it seems like a break.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Maximus on April 07, 2020, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 07, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
That piece of shit Modly seems to be gone. :yeah:
Is this the first time a member of the administration has suffered consequences for their actions due to public pressure?

Probably not, but it seems like a break.

EPA head (I think) was fired after a news story about how much he spent on flying.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Syt

So apparently the press secretary has left without ever giving a single press briefing in over a year? :unsure:
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DGuller

Quote from: Syt on April 07, 2020, 11:54:20 PM
So apparently the press secretary has left without ever giving a single press briefing in over a year? :unsure:
That's why you have probationary periods for new employees, so that you don't have to wait so long if they don't do their jobs.

Admiral Yi

I thought that dude who said everyone does quid pro quos was the press secretary until recently.  Mike...McvVaney?

Eddie Teach

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merithyn

Honest question: Has the Supreme Court ever been so obviously slanted in the past? If so, how was it handled? When was it?
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

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Syt

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html

Quote"We're going to put a hold on money spent to the WHO. We're going to put a very powerful hold on it," the President said in his briefing.

"They called it wrong. They missed the call. They could have called it months earlier," Trump said.

"It's a great thing if it works but when they call every shot wrong that's no good," he said, accusing the WHO of being biased towards China, which Republicans have accused of trying to cover up the virus.

:bleeding:

I need to disengage from US politics news. I can't deal with Trump's damaged brain and his sycophants anymore at this point.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.