What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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viper37

#23460
September 07, 2019, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2019, 10:05:25 AM
I thought Pence was supposed to be the competent one.
Compared to Trump...  Compared to Trump...
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The Brain

#23461
September 07, 2019, 02:49:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2019, 10:05:25 AM
I thought Pence was supposed to be the competent one.

Women sense his power. But he denies them his presence.
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Admiral Yi

#23462
September 07, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc_k2eDFqJk

The Trump campaign is selling autographed marker pens for $15.  :lmfao:

Oexmelin

#23463
September 07, 2019, 06:11:34 PM
The President of the United States sells memorabilia of his dishonesty.
Que le grand cric me croque !

DGuller

#23464
September 08, 2019, 11:38:55 AM
I think all of this is a strategy, even if Trump stumbled into it more than reasoned it out.  Truth doesn't matter, only the reactions of people who care about the truth matter.  It's a gaslighting of sorts, straight out of Russian playbook.
I find it hard to find any part of it amusing, I feel like laughing at it would play into it.

Syt

#23465
September 10, 2019, 11:03:27 AM
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Maladict

#23466
September 10, 2019, 11:18:22 AM
Bolton just got fired by Trump.

Syt

#23467
September 10, 2019, 11:19:08 AM
 :lol:
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Eddie Teach

#23468
September 10, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Maladict on September 10, 2019, 11:18:22 AM
Bolton just got fired by Trump.

Good.
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HVC

#23469
September 10, 2019, 11:47:46 AM
poor michael
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Syt

#23470
September 10, 2019, 12:04:18 PM
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Legbiter

#23471
September 10, 2019, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 10, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Maladict on September 10, 2019, 11:18:22 AM
Bolton just got fired by Trump.

Good.

Yeah.

He might have done some good as a negotiating tool. Maybe.
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Legbiter

#23472
September 10, 2019, 12:31:34 PM
Found the quote I was thinking about.

Quote"Trump thinks that Bolton is a key part of his negotiating strategy," said the same person who described Trump as "touchy" about Bolton. "He thinks that Bolton's bellicosity and eagerness to kill people is a bargaining chip when he's sitting down with foreign leaders. Bolton can be the bad cop and Trump can be the good cop. Trump believes this to his core."

https://www.axios.com/trump-john-bolton-doctrine-iran-venezuela-war-427ca897-aaa1-4e10-a7c9-2a67c1d20354.html
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The Minsky Moment

#23473
September 10, 2019, 01:16:47 PM
There is a logic to that except that it requires the person implementing the strategy to understand the basics of international diplomacy, which Trump doesn't.   It also requires people to believe that people under than Trump have any meaningful influence or authority as against Trump's own views, which no one believes anymore either.  It also makes no sense for Trump to play good cop to Bolton's bad because the other party would just ignore Bolton and appeal directly to Trump via known and accepted means (flattery and complimentary tweets).  It would make a little more sense the other way around, depending on one's willingness to encourage accidental escalation of a conflict, and on the counterfactual that Bolton would be capable of playing good cop (he isn't)
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grumbler

#23474
September 10, 2019, 01:46:44 PM
Trump believed that "bad cop/worse cop" messages worked.
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