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viper37

#22455
May 18, 2019, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 17, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
The left starts from a different point of view.  Rather from starting from imagining a mythical land where everyone is free of government regulation and then reasoning what might be appropriate, the left generally starts from the position that government regulation is certainly necessary to protect society from the excesses of capitalism.

That differentiates quasi-libertarians from middle of the road leftists.  It doesn't account for antifa, anarchists and communists.  And it only deals with economic issues, not social.  Berkut is quite liberal on social issues, more conservative on economic issues.

"Liberal" in the US sense means more than just "economic left wing".  The US Right wing is totally in favour of strict regulations to govern social life: anti-abortion, anti gay/trans/etc rights, freedom of religion as long as it means having similar strict beliefs, etc.  That isn't Berkut, imho.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Razgovory

#22456
May 18, 2019, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on May 18, 2019, 01:06:35 AM
Trump is going full Sauron. :rolleyes:

I think this is a perfect illustration of what Trump and his cult believe to be strength and toughness.  It's what the rest of us consider cruelty.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#22457
May 19, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
Justin Amash calls for the impeachment of Donald Trump: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/opinions/justin-amash-donald-trump-impeachment-tweets-obeidallah/index.html

I have to hand it to him. I always respected, if I did not agree, with his narrow constitutional positions but even so I find this principled stand surprising. Needless to say the Republicans will continue to show just what they think of Libertarian types when they have the reigns of power...or at least whatever Trump and his supporters are.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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jimmy olsen

#22458
May 19, 2019, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2019, 12:58:56 PM
Justin Amash calls for the impeachment of Donald Trump: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/opinions/justin-amash-donald-trump-impeachment-tweets-obeidallah/index.html

I have to hand it to him. I always respected, if I did not agree, with his narrow constitutional positions but even so I find this principled stand surprising. Needless to say the Republicans will continue to show just what they think of Libertarian types when they have the reigns of power...or at least whatever Trump and his supporters are.
It's not that surprising. He's always been the one libertarian GOP house member who has actually been ideologically consistent. If there was a pool for the first GOP congressman to call for Trump's impeachment, Amash would have been the favorite, far and away.
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jimmy olsen

#22459
May 20, 2019, 08:20:00 PM
5th Migrant Child Dies After Detention by US Border Agents (That we know about)
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https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/05/20/us/ap-us-immigration-migrant-deaths.html?searchResultPosition=4
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

#22460
May 21, 2019, 07:20:32 PM
 Thousands of immigrants forced into solitary confinement by ICE – not for breaking any rules, but for being physically disabled or gay

https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/thousands-of-immigrants-forced-into-solitary-confinement-by-ice-60040261961?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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dps

#22461
May 22, 2019, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2019, 07:20:32 PM
Thousands of immigrants forced into solitary confinement by ICE – not for breaking any rules, but for being physically disabled or gay

https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/thousands-of-immigrants-forced-into-solitary-confinement-by-ice-60040261961?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.

Oexmelin

#22462
May 22, 2019, 12:46:03 AM
 :rolleyes:
Que le grand cric me croque !

jimmy olsen

#22463
May 22, 2019, 05:59:29 AM
Quote from: dps on May 22, 2019, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2019, 07:20:32 PM
Thousands of immigrants forced into solitary confinement by ICE – not for breaking any rules, but for being physically disabled or gay

https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/thousands-of-immigrants-forced-into-solitary-confinement-by-ice-60040261961?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.
They have not broken prison rules, which is what normally gets you thrown in solitary confinement, but you knew that and are just nitpicking.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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dps

#22464
May 22, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2019, 05:59:29 AM
Quote from: dps on May 22, 2019, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2019, 07:20:32 PM
Thousands of immigrants forced into solitary confinement by ICE – not for breaking any rules, but for being physically disabled or gay

https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/thousands-of-immigrants-forced-into-solitary-confinement-by-ice-60040261961?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.
They have not broken prison rules, which is what normally gets you thrown in solitary confinement, but you knew that and are just nitpicking.

OK, guilty as charged.

grumbler

#22465
May 22, 2019, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: dps on May 22, 2019, 12:07:59 AM
If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.

No, they haven't.  There is no law that says people cannot cross a birder to claim asylum.  Staying in the country after being refused asylum is "breaking the rules," but that only applies after a court ruling that these people haven't yet had.

Trumpeters tend to forget all about courts.
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Razgovory

#22466
May 22, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Trump and his cult want to get rid of the courts.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

viper37

#22467
May 22, 2019, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 22, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Trump and his cult want to get rid of the courts.
unnecessary burden with such a wise ruler.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

jimmy olsen

#22468
May 22, 2019, 08:24:10 PM
Reports have surfaced that a sixth migrant child died Border Control custody, but was not reported. How many other cases like that were there?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-children-death-a-10-year-old-migrant-girl-died-last-year-in-government-care-officials-acknowledge-exclusive/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=67929241
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
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dps

#22469
May 23, 2019, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 22, 2019, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: dps on May 22, 2019, 12:07:59 AM
If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.

No, they haven't.  There is no law that says people cannot cross a birder to claim asylum.

To repeat:   If they're illegal immigrants, they have broken rules.

Yeah, I was being both an ass about it, but what I posted was technically correct.
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