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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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viper37

Quote from: frunk on August 18, 2017, 01:28:11 PM
We're talking about a continuum of situations.  Ideally there are no Nazis.  If there are Nazis hopefully they can be contained by popular protest, police and governmental action.  If they can't be contained by the above then yes more direct confrontation is necessary.  That shouldn't be the first response, though, as it indicates a breakdown of other checks in the system.  Which, when we get down to it, is what the Nazis want.  They want violence and intimidation to be a regular part of society.  It doesn't mean that the anti-fascists are the same as the fascists, it means that we are competing on the playing field the fascists want to be on.
:yes:
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: FunkMonk on August 18, 2017, 01:33:21 PM
Goddamn Mike Pence is fuckin brilliant

A motherfuckin Frank Underwood holy shit

If the endgame for Mueller's investigation is the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia, he will be inevitably swept up in it, due to his time with the campaign and his role as transition team leader.  At some point in time, he was in the room.  He may have been doing the New York Times crossword, but he was there.

Remember your Mob 101:  the Front Man is not clean, he's just there to portray the illusion of cleanliness.

katmai

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 18, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 17, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Presumably this one came straight out of Bannon's mouth and into Trump's ear, before engaging the potty-mouth auto twitch response?

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Donald J. Trump 
@realDonaldTrump
   
Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!

11:45 AM - 17 Aug 2017


Early career, Pershing commanded the Buffalo soldiers (black cavalrymen).  Wonder what he would have done with a bunch of rioters carrying KKK insignia and Nazi flags?

[Hint:  not praise them for their "very fine" deportment]
My maternal grandfather served under him in Mexico, and then later France.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: katmai on August 18, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 18, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 17, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Presumably this one came straight out of Bannon's mouth and into Trump's ear, before engaging the potty-mouth auto twitch response?

Quote
Donald J. Trump 
@realDonaldTrump
   
Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!

11:45 AM - 17 Aug 2017


Early career, Pershing commanded the Buffalo soldiers (black cavalrymen).  Wonder what he would have done with a bunch of rioters carrying KKK insignia and Nazi flags?

[Hint:  not praise them for their "very fine" deportment]
My maternal grandfather served under him in Mexico, and then later France.
wasn't he a supporter of Woodrow Wilson's segregation policies?
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

katmai

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Savonarola

Good God Y'All:

Quote'#WAR': Breitbart set to take on Trump White House after Bannon ouster
by Oliver Darcy   @CNNMoney
August 18, 2017: 4:33 PM ET   


Breitbart had been almost unfailingly supportive of President Trump, first during his campaign and then during his presidency. But following the White House's ouster of Steve Bannon, the former head of the right-wing website, Breitbart appears to be getting ready for a fight with the Trump team.

Bannon, his allies and the site's staffers have not been subtle about what is likely to happen now.
Joel Pollak, a senior editor-at-large at Breitbart, tweeted "#WAR," a reference to the site's early days and the mission statement of its founder, Andrew Breitbart.

A person who recently spoke with Bannon told CNNMoney that the now-former White House chief strategist will not stay quiet on the sidelines.

"It will be Bannon the barbarian," the person said. "He's not going to go out peacefully."

Following news of Bannon's exit, Breitbart started to prepare stories critical of people in the Trump White House, a person at the website told CNN. It's most likely the site will not -- for now at least -- directly attack the President, but will focus its fire on people in Trump's circle who had clashed with Bannon, or who are viewed as Democrats or "globalists."

A senior administration official told CNNMoney that Bannon will indeed fight for nationalism and populism on the from outside the White House. "He can be helpful to POTUS on the outside. Others may need to duck," the person said.

One Breitbart headline drew a comparison between Trump and Arnold Schwarzenegger, the former California governor, who is not viewed positively among the conservative base.

"With Steve Bannon gone, Donald Trump risks becoming Arnold Schwarzenegger 2.0," the Breitbart headline declared.

Ben Shapiro, a former editor at Breitbart who has been critical of Bannon and the website since he left, wrote in a column, "Bannon is deeply vengeful, and supremely ambitious. He has already held the most powerful job he will ever have -- unless, of course, his new job is to destroy Trump from the outside."

In messages from the company's internal Slack channels obtained by CNNMoney, Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow instructed his staff to also "round up hysterical reactions and gloating" by the mainstream media and Hollywood. Matthew Boyle, the website's Washington editor, who has been close with Bannon, was told to "start putting together a narrative story."

There has been speculation that Bannon will return to Breitbart after parting ways with the White House. But Marlow told his staff he was in the dark on that particular matter.

"I'm not sure exactly when he's out officially or if he's coming back," Marlow wrote.

Marlow also tried to get a handle on the website's public relations. He gave Breitbart employees a "friendly reminder" that "tweeting tends to do more harm than good."

A spokesman for Breitbart declined to comment.

-- CNNMoney's Dylan Byers contributed reporting.

A l'exemple de Saturne, la révolution dévore ses enfants
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Jacob

Quote from: Solmyr on August 18, 2017, 02:00:14 PM
Can the POTUS even fire the Veep? What happens if he does?

My understanding is that the president cannot fire the VP.

Habbaku

The VP is elected by the Electoral College in the same fashion the President is. He cannot be "fired" by the President, but can be removed from office the same way the President would.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Crazy_Ivan80

Time to ask the British to burn down DC again people.

jimmy olsen

Bannon with that weird interview of his was basically giving Trump an ultimatum.  Follow through on our campaign promises with regards to economic war with China or fire me.

Trump fired him and now Bannon is going to go scorched earth in response.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 18, 2017, 02:33:26 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 18, 2017, 01:33:21 PM
Goddamn Mike Pence is fuckin brilliant

A motherfuckin Frank Underwood holy shit

If the endgame for Mueller's investigation is the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia, he will be inevitably swept up in it, due to his time with the campaign and his role as transition team leader.  At some point in time, he was in the room.  He may have been doing the New York Times crossword, but he was there.

Remember your Mob 101:  the Front Man is not clean, he's just there to portray the illusion of cleanliness.

Wishful thinking.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on August 18, 2017, 06:44:09 PM
Wishful thinking.

Any other campaign, maybe.  But the Trump campaign's management staff--even at its largest--you could count on both hands.