Daily Mail: Putin's new 'super tank' leaves West totally outgunned

[Tamas]

Why would it move underground?

Hard to shoot.

he's also unaware there are lots of ways to stop an anti-tank missile.

Yeah I am sure he hasn't had as nice a view of the modern battlefield as you.

[DGuller]

Why would it move underground?

Hard to shoot.

he's also unaware there are lots of ways to stop an anti-tank missile.

Yeah I am sure he hasn't had as nice a view of the modern battlefield as you.

[grumbler]

he's also unaware there are lots of ways to stop an anti-tank missile.

Yeah I am sure he hasn't had as nice a view of the modern battlefield as you.

Siege probably doesn't even know how many action points it takes to fire a Javelin. 

[Razgovory]

Why would it move underground?

Hard to shoot.

he's also unaware there are lots of ways to stop an anti-tank missile.

Yeah I am sure he hasn't had as nice a view of the modern battlefield as you.

[Valmy]

Look I know Siege says some pretty absurd things on this board about many different things but surely his many years of service in two different modern militaries gives him some cred on these kinds of things.

Besides the last time I recall the US using tanks was the 1990 Gulf War.

[derspiess]

Look I know Siege says some pretty absurd things on this board about many different things but surely his many years of service in two different modern militaries gives him some cred on these kinds of things.

Besides the last time I recall the US using tanks was the 1990 Gulf War.

[Valmy]

Meaning that he is probably correct that they are not really that useful in modern warfare.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Meaning that he is probably correct that they are not really that useful in modern warfare.

You don't remember us using tanks in Iraq?   



E:  Wrong quote. 

Besides the last time I recall the US using tanks was the 1990 Gulf War.

[Berkut]

Look I know Siege says some pretty absurd things on this board about many different things but surely his many years of service in two different modern militaries gives him some cred on these kinds of things.

It gives him cred on how he fought, I don't think it gives him much cred on the imminent domination of the new battlefield with burrowing robots.

Once you get out of his area of direct expertise, he goes straight to cuckoo land on almost all topics.

Besides the last time I recall the US using tanks was the 1990 Gulf War.

You haven't been paying much attention.

[Valmy]

You don't remember us using tanks in Iraq?   

Not really.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Not really.

Dude, really?  You don't at least remember the mechanized columns rolling down Iraqi highways with idiot embedded reporters hanging off of every other vehicle right at the beginning?  There were tanks all over the place.

[Alcibiades]

My memory of how tanks are used since the Gulf War:





http://www.military.com/video/combat-vehicles/combat-tanks/tank-detonates-ied-in-sadr-city-iraq/1454509460001

[Berkut]

We used tanks in Iraq during the second invasion, and used them throughout the counter-insurgency war as well.

They have somewhat limited use in counter-insurgency of course, but they are hardly useless.

And there is a reason we only fight counter-insurgency wars these days - because our conventional capability is great enough nobody bothers to challenge us conventionally.

That hardly means that our conventional capabilities are not useful - almost exactly the opposite in fact.

[alfred russel]

Once you get out of his area of direct expertise, he goes straight to cuckoo land on almost all topics.

Many visionaries were thought to inhabit cuckoo land. Everyone from Tesla to Newton to Einstein to Jim Jones, David Koresh, and L. Ron Hubbard has been dismissed by some as crazy.

[Berkut]

Once you get out of his area of direct expertise, he goes straight to cuckoo land on almost all topics.

Many visionaries were thought to inhabit cuckoo land. Everyone from Tesla to Newton to Einstein to Jim Jones, David Koresh, and L. Ron Hubbard has been dismissed by some as crazy.

This is true.

I am willing to confidently say that Siege will not end up in the set of "thought to be crazy" people that is inhabited by the likes of newton or Einstein.

I sure hope he doesn't end up in the set inhabited by Hubbard or Jim Jones.