The Presidential Debate, "Episode 1: The Phantom Menace" Megathread

Started by CountDeMoney, September 26, 2016, 06:50:43 PM

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jimmy olsen

Hope?

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Frank Luntz‏@
Frank Luntz‏

Who won tonite's debate?
In my focus group, 6 people said Trump and 16 said Clinton. #DebateNight
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
Hope?

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Frank Luntz‏@
Frank Luntz‏

Who won tonite's debate?
In my focus group, 6 people said Trump and 16 said Clinton. #DebateNight

Sample size WTF?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 26, 2016, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
Hope?

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Frank Luntz‏@
Frank Luntz‏

Who won tonite's debate?
In my focus group, 6 people said Trump and 16 said Clinton. #DebateNight

Sample size WTF?

Focus groups are always like one room full of undecided voters.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

CountDeMoney

lol, the restaurant in Ohio was classic.  Split down the middle before the debate, no change at all after.  :lol:

One "Anyone But Clinton" woman: "I've voting for the conservative party, and if it happens to be this jackass leading the mule train, so be it."   :bleeding:


Yes.  Once again, the nation's future rests on:  Ohio. Fuck. :lol:

The Minsky Moment

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DGuller

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2016, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 26, 2016, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
Hope?

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Frank Luntz‏@
Frank Luntz‏

Who won tonite's debate?
In my focus group, 6 people said Trump and 16 said Clinton. #DebateNight

Sample size WTF?

Focus groups are always like one room full of undecided voters.
Frank Luntz's focus groups typically don't need large sample sizes.  The concept of sample size applies to outcomes with inherent uncertainty, and there is usually nothing uncertain about the conclusions of his focus groups.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2016, 10:34:10 PM
lol, the restaurant in Ohio was classic.  Split down the middle before the debate, no change at all after.  :lol:

One "Anyone But Clinton" woman: "I've voting for the conservative party, and if it happens to be this jackass leading the mule train, so be it."   :bleeding:


Yes.  Once again, the nation's future rests on:  Ohio. Fuck. :lol:

Those are the folks I want to see meltdown.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Admiral Yi

My understanding is focus groups are used to gain a deeper understanding of attitudes rather than to generalize about larger trends.

CountDeMoney

Christ, Trump's campaign manager is a batty ass bitch.  Why did Clinton have to spend so much time preparing for this debate? The American voter deserves a better candidate than that  :lol:

Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
Christ, Trump's campaign manager is a batty ass bitch.  Why did Clinton have to spend so much time preparing for this debate? The American voter deserves a better candidate than that  :lol:

lolwut?
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Admiral Yi


Phillip V

Trump won the debate. He kept a consistent presence and message for 90 minutes and got Clinton to choke in the beginning on her TPP flip-flop.

Clinton played the debate conventional and measured with her usual wonkishness, liberal talking points, and silly grin/cackle. I do not believe she swayed any undecided voters while some may support Trump now that he has demonstrated he is real on the same stage with Clinton.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
Christ, Trump's campaign manager is a batty ass bitch.  Why did Clinton have to spend so much time preparing for this debate? The American voter deserves a better candidate than that  :lol:

Batshit crazy.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote"I thought it was great, I really enjoyed it. It's about making America great again. She proved it's all talk no action," Trump says to Mark Halperin offering up some post-debate spin. Trump suggests he considered going ugly, but shied away from it. "I didn't want to do my final attack, which was to attack her husband on what took place with respect to him and his life .... because Chelsea who I happen to think is a wonderful young lady was in the room, and I just didn't think it would be appropriate."

I look forward to the next 24-48 hours of the Donald's Twitterverse.