The prison food and burkini ban dual thread

[Solmyr]

This thread title is so misleading.

[Valmy]

Fuck the French.  Hypocritical, bigoted shitheads.

They will come around. There was a time they were trying to ban American shit to.

[Valmy]

An excellent article on this from Maajid Nawaz:

And here is the best way to get Muslim cultured women to stop wearing the Hijab: allow them to talk about it.

[Valmy]

French court suspends 'burkini' ban

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37198479

Ah good.

[Martinus]

An excellent article on this from Maajid Nawaz:

And here is the best way to get Muslim cultured women to stop wearing the Hijab: allow them to talk about it.

But the point he is also making - is that it should not just be something for "them" to talk. Just as the critique of Christians' stance on abortion, gay marriage or contraception is not limited to Christians - but is discussed by atheists, Jews and everybody else. Same principle should apply here.

[Martinus]

I pulled a Timmay. 

[Josephus]

So this is where you're hiding.

Anwyay: Burkini Ban. Racist anti muslim. Ladies can go naked but not fully clothed. Crazy. Blah blah...

[Martinus]

So this is where you're hiding.

Anwyay: Burkini Ban. Racist anti muslim. Ladies can go naked but not fully clothed. Crazy. Blah blah...

That's true but read the Maajid Nawaz article too and tell me what you think.

[Valmy]

But the point he is also making - is that it should not just be something for "them" to talk. Just as the critique of Christians' stance on abortion, gay marriage or contraception is not limited to Christians - but is discussed by atheists, Jews and everybody else. Same principle should apply here.

Everybody else inside our Christian cultured society yes. It cannot be 'Islamic civilization sucks because of blah blah' and become some kind of nationalistic tribal thing. You know how those things usually go.

[Josephus]

I skimmed through it. And yes I agree with your bolded parts.

But the issue of whether or not Islamic women should be wearing burkinis or burkas, in general,  is a slightly different topic. I agree it's an old sexist tradition. But as he says, it doesn't preclude that as long as a woman wants to wear a burkini at a beach for religious, cultural reasons, then we shouldn't oppose their desire to do that.

Part of the liberal society that he talks about is giving people the liberty to wear what they want to a beach, surely.

[mongers]

I pulled a Timmay. 

Nice retitling; I like the idea of dual use threads. 

[CountDeMoney]

Burkini.  Sounds like something on McDonald's $1 menu.  Or a fag cocktail.

[Hamilcar]

Or a fag cocktail.

Probably a virgin cocktail. One of 72!

[CountDeMoney]

Or a fag cocktail.

Probably a virgin cocktail. One of 72!

That's a lot of ginger ale, insha'allah.

[derspiess]

I think we may need another burkini thread.  This one's getting too full.