Attack in Nice on July 14th

[derspiess]

Damn

[mongers]

I guess the police can't rule out the possibility this was intended to be an explosive laden lorry bomb, but for some reason it wasn't triggered or set off and so the driver carried on running down people?

[Duque de Bragança]

For some reason the Élysée Palace (French president residency) still does not want to say it's a terrorist attack. Just a criminal act. 

A video of the lorry picking up pace to crush people has been shown on French TV.

Mustn't appear racist at all cost.

Otherwise, Le Pen would profit from it, I know. Still...

Hollande is now back from Avignon, at the Interior ministry crisis cell, place Beauveau in Paris, not far from the Elysée palace itself.

Lorry ran over people for about 2 km at 40-50 kph along the famous Promenade des Anglais that had like 100,000 people there watching the fireworks.

[Duque de Bragança]

I guess the police can't rule out the possibility this was intended to be an explosive laden lorry bomb, but for some reason it wasn't triggered or set off and so the driver carried on running down people?

It's still unclear if there was a firefight with the driver, after the truck was stopped, by arms fire.

[mongers]

I guess the police can't rule out the possibility this was intended to be an explosive laden lorry bomb, but for some reason it wasn't triggered or set off and so the driver carried on running down people?

It's still unclear if there was a firefight with the driver, after the truck was stopped, by arms fire.

I've just heard on the bbbc news channel an interview with an Egyptian tourist, who said he was within feet of the truck when it stopped and he saw the driver pull out a handgun before engaging/being engaged by police. He says he has a video of it on his phone.

edit:

AP are saying:

The Associated Press
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BREAKING: Christian Estrosi, president of the region, says the truck in Nice was loaded with arms and grenades.

[Hamilcar]

From the Guardian:

"There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she's a martyr.

This, right here, is the problem.

[mongers]

From the Guardian:

"There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she's a martyr.

This, right here, is the problem.

Or she might be a martyr to carrying on ones day-to-day life and enjoying civic celebrations alongside a broad range of her fellow citizens?

[Hamilcar]

From the Guardian:

"There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she's a martyr.

This, right here, is the problem.

Or she might be a martyr to carrying on ones day to day life and enjoying civic celebrations alongside a the broad range of her fellow citizens?

Do you really believe that? 

[Duque de Bragança]

I guess the police can't rule out the possibility this was intended to be an explosive laden lorry bomb, but for some reason it wasn't triggered or set off and so the driver carried on running down people?

It's still unclear if there was a firefight with the driver, after the truck was stopped, by arms fire.

I've just heard on the bbbc news channel an interview with an Egyptian tourist, who said he was within feet of the truck when it stopped and he saw the driver pull out a handgun before engaging/being engaged by police. He says he has a video of it on his phone.

edit:

AP are saying:

The Associated Press
@AP    16m
BREAKING: Christian Estrosi, president of the region, says the truck in Nice was loaded with arms and grenades.

It's plausible for the part by the Egyptian tourist.
I mentioned earlier the report about the lorry but then later some other source on TV said weapons were fake.

[jimmy olsen]

From the Guardian:

"There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she's a martyr.

This, right here, is the problem.

How?

[mongers]

From the Guardian:

"There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she's a martyr.

This, right here, is the problem.

Or she might be a martyr to carrying on ones day to day life and enjoying civic celebrations alongside a the broad range of her fellow citizens?

Do you really believe that? 

You're the one putting forward a 'hypothesis' that the use of a tradition cultural phrase is somehow proof of a serious problem; I was merely conjecturing that this un-named victim of this massacre is no different to all the other people murdered.

I'd say the onus is on you to prove your grand theory.

[garbon]

I can't see what kind of security measures could have stopped an attack like this particular one, really.

You go and find everyone who has contact with ISIS propaganda and if they are not French citizens, you deport them immediately. If they are dual citizens, strip them of French citizenship and deport them immediately. If they are solely French citizens, send them for in-depth de-radicalization followed by permanent monitoring.

What is contact with ISIS propaganda? Like they have ever seen it? Also the way we protect our societies is to no longer be open societies?

[Barrister]

Not again.

[jimmy olsen]

Death toll is up to 77 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/14/nice-bastille-day-france-attack-promenade-des-anglais-vehicle

[jimmy olsen]

Guardian reports that the driver has been identified.

Both French TV station BFM and local newspaper Nice-Matin are reporting that the driver is a 31-year-old with dual French-Tunisian nationality.

BFM is quoting a police source via Agence France-Presse who said that an ID card was found inside the truck. Reports say the man was a Nice resident.