Who will (or would) you vote for in the US Presidential election?

[Valmy]

The biggest difference between liberals and conservatives is that for liberals the end justify the means, and no matter what's the corruption they cover up their fellow democrats to maintain control of power.

While the conservatives are purists who impeach their own president, as in Nixon, and fight a soft civil war becuase half of them don't think Trump is a real conservative with conservative values.

4 million conservatives stayed home on 2012 because Mitt Romney was too liberal in their eyes.

The think is, for conservatives the end does not justify the means.

Not really. Leftists are also moronic purists who let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[Valmy]

Yeah the 90s were a terrible time - low unemployment, high productivity growth, booming stock market, budget surpluses, the US totally ascendant in the world, Russia and China quiescent.

Siege and his people have to really get inventive to make his policies seem bad. To the point they just ignore those and focus on irrelevant bullshit.

[Valmy]

Who?

Exactly. What should be famous staple of American Culture destroyed forever, like the peasants living in the ruins of Nineveh never having heard of the Assyrians.

[The Minsky Moment]

Who?

Exactly. What should be famous staple of American Culture destroyed forever, like the peasants living in the ruins of Nineveh never having heard of the Assyrians.

When Asserherschelwalkeripal faced off against Steveyoungacharib.

[Valmy]

When Asserherschelwalkeripal faced off against Steveyoungacharib.

[Siege]

Oh please, everything good in the 90s wad due to the Republican ran house of Representatives. The 90s were ok despite the Clintons.

[Siege]

Amd yes, the 9/11 was Clinton's fault, just like Zerobama still blames the recession on Bush 2.

[Martinus]

Trump (never clinton)

[Martinus]

As for the original question, it depends. Is Augustus Sol Invictus running?

[Valmy]

Oh please, everything good in the 90s wad due to the Republican ran house of Representatives. The 90s were ok despite the Clintons.

And there it is. Nonsense, bad policies by the President could have wrecked havoc. Instead we had a massive expansion of our free trade and good relations abroad, often with Republican opposition. Though, to be fair, often with the opposition of the Democrats and some of their supporters as well.

That is not to say I agreed with everything Clinton did, far from it, but to say things worked out well despite him is just hilariously delusional.

Amd yes, the 9/11 was Clinton's fault, just like Zerobama still blames the recession on Bush 2.

So you agree with Zerobama since you are holding him up as an example of truth? Interesting.

[Savonarola]

As for the original question, it depends. Is Augustus Sol Invictus running?

He's running for the open Senate seat in (where else?) Florida.

[The Minsky Moment]

Amd yes, the 9/11 was Clinton's fault, just like Zerobama still blames the recession on Bush 2.

The difference is that the financial collapse and recession actually occurred during Bush's term. I realize that things like the regular succession of time can confuse some conservatives but it is a pretty elementary distinction.

Now personally I don't think the recession was really much of Bush's fault, in fact I think his people came up with a pretty decent policy response given the political constraints.  Then again, I think bin Laden is actually at fault for 9/11 so I'm weird that way.

[Admiral Yi]

Seeb, I thought you claimed to be a free market guy.  How can a free market guy support Trump?

[Razgovory]

The biggest difference between liberals and conservatives is that for liberals the end justify the means, and no matter what's the corruption they cover up their fellow democrats to maintain control of power.

While the conservatives are purists who impeach their own president, as in Nixon, and fight a soft civil war becuase half of them don't think Trump is a real conservative with conservative values.

4 million conservatives stayed home on 2012 because Mitt Romney was too liberal in their eyes.

The think is, for conservatives the end does not justify the means.

Republicans never impeached Nixon.  Take a look at what happened to Cap Weinberger and see how purist the Republicans are.

[The Minsky Moment]

To be fair a lot of republicans acted very honorably over Watergate, even at the cost of their partisan interest.
However, also to be fair that particular breed of republican is rather rare on the ground these days.  Can't see Elliot Richardson being a big macher in the present day GOP.