Green Energy Revolution Megathread

[The Larch]

Some people and protesters are up in arms because a company wants to temporarily put an exploration drilling rig 10 miles out in Bournemouth bay to investigate a small reservoir of oil.

This will only be for two months and if successful, the oil will be actually be recoverd by extended reach drilling from the existing land-based rig at Wytch Farm. This could probably break some distance world records in the process.

So apparently we're only a few steps from doomsday and environmental catastrophe, the conurbations local newspaper ran a story on it and choose to 'illustrate' it with a photo of the BP Deepwater Horizon on fire.

Here's the 'article' :
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/16038014.kate-humble-and-chris-packham-among-those-opposing-poole-bay-oil-rig-plan/

it is SO fucking exhausting that every day there are at least 6 major reasons per political side to be outraged/offended/terrified. I am becoming increasingly tempted to switch off news. The air raid sirens will warn me it's all over anyways.

Well there actually are many reasons in the world to be outraged/offended/terrified.

Don't throw a wrench into Tamas' plans to finally go full curmudgeon. 

[Tamas]

Some people and protesters are up in arms because a company wants to temporarily put an exploration drilling rig 10 miles out in Bournemouth bay to investigate a small reservoir of oil.

This will only be for two months and if successful, the oil will be actually be recoverd by extended reach drilling from the existing land-based rig at Wytch Farm. This could probably break some distance world records in the process.

So apparently we're only a few steps from doomsday and environmental catastrophe, the conurbations local newspaper ran a story on it and choose to 'illustrate' it with a photo of the BP Deepwater Horizon on fire.

Here's the 'article' :
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/16038014.kate-humble-and-chris-packham-among-those-opposing-poole-bay-oil-rig-plan/

it is SO fucking exhausting that every day there are at least 6 major reasons per political side to be outraged/offended/terrified. I am becoming increasingly tempted to switch off news. The air raid sirens will warn me it's all over anyways.

Well there actually are many reasons in the world to be outraged/offended/terrified.

Not on a bloody daily basis though. But you can't grab people's attention with a non-outrage piece of news.

[garbon]

Not on a bloody daily basis though. But you can't grab people's attention with a non-outrage piece of news.

Are you kidding me? There's generally enough 'real' stuff that I could spend most everyday angry and terrified. I don't though as I need to at least try to function on a daily basis.

I think you are right in saying that many people these days get worked up over non-issues but that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of concerning/frightening stuff going on.

[Tonitrus]

Meanwhile in Germany, energy producer RWE, environmentalists, and courts are clashing over plans to remove 250 acres of ancient forest in order to start a new open pit mining operation for coal.

How many acres would a nuke plant take up? 

[Tamas]

Not on a bloody daily basis though. But you can't grab people's attention with a non-outrage piece of news.

Are you kidding me? There's generally enough 'real' stuff that I could spend most everyday angry and terrified. I don't though as I need to at least try to function on a daily basis.

I think you are right in saying that many people these days get worked up over non-issues but that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of concerning/frightening stuff going on.

I mean shit like Mongers posted. Is it valid and prudent to be sceptical when a new project like that temporary oil rig launches in your area? Yes. are you supposed to draw parallels with the effin' BP well in America over it? No. And shit like that is in the media on a daily basis over pretty much anything. On all political sides. It's exhausting.

[garbon]

But that's just people being misinformed / people choosing to present information in a misleading fashion. Neither are really new.

Also, I think media might be a bit limiting unless you are also counting social media. After all, that isn't a traditional media outlet but a place where a lone individual can spread a lot of inaccurate information.

[Tamas]

But that's just people being misinformed / people choosing to present information in a misleading fashion. Neither are really new.

Also, I think media might be a bit limiting unless you are also counting social media. After all, that isn't a traditional media outlet but a place where a lone individual can spread a lot of inaccurate information.

Sure, add that too although I pay less attention to that.

And maybe it's not more panicky outragemongering than it used to be, but it's sure more noticeable when it's about things like Brexit, the Russians, personal liberty, gender definitions and their enforcements (pro- or contra-side depends on the source's affiliation), etc.

[The Brain]

Meanwhile in Germany, energy producer RWE, environmentalists, and courts are clashing over plans to remove 250 acres of ancient forest in order to start a new open pit mining operation for coal.

How many acres would a nuke plant take up? 

The cool ones are underground.

[crazy canuck]

The cool ones are underground.

That is what the Morlocks said.

[Eddie Teach]

Eloi flesh: 

[Savonarola]

OH THE HUMANITY:

Breeze UK hydrogen multiple-unit proposal unveiled

UK: Alstom and leasing company Eversholt Rail have unveiled their 'Breeze' proposal to convert surplus Class 321 electric multiple-units to hydrogen power.

The 25 kV 50 Hz Class 321 EMUs which were built by BREL in 1998-90 are scheduled to be withdrawn by the end of this year.  Greater Anglia is replacing them with new vehicles from Bombardier Transportation and Stadler. Alstom said the 'proven and reliable' EMUs were 'an excellent fit in terms of characteristics, fleet size and availability for conversion to a hydrogen multiple-unit'.

A comprehensive engineering study has been completed and the design concept finalised. Alstom and Eversholt are now working with stakeholders to develop business cases and detailed plans for the introduction of hydrogen-powered units and the associated fuelling infrastructure. Conversion would be undertaken at Alstom's Widnes site, and Breeze units could enter service from 2022.

They would have 'a stylish, modern look', said Alstom UK & Ireland Managing Director Nick Crossfield when the design was unveiled on January 7. 'The railways need to decarbonise and the government has rightly set out a goal to eliminate diesel rolling stock by 2040. Hydrogen trains offer an ideal solution for routes which are unlikely to benefit from electrification, and our innovative engineering solution means they can now fit within the UK loading gauge and can quickly be ready to roll on Britain's railways.'

Eversholt Rail Client Relations Director Stephen Timothy said the project would draw on its experience with the Renatus Class 321 refurbishment programme undertaken by Wabtec Faiveley UK, and Alstom's Coradia iLint hydrogen train programme in Germany.

Rail Minister Andrew Jones said hydrogen trains were 'an exciting innovation which has the potential to transform our railway, making journeys cleaner and greener by cutting CO2 emissions even further', and the government was 'working with industry to establish how hydrogen trains can play an important part in the future, delivering better services on rural and inter-urban routes.'

At InnoTrans 2018 leasing company Porterbrook and the University of Birmingham signed a memorandum of understanding for an ex-Thameslink Class 319 EMU to be fitted with fuel cells, with Hydro Flex demonstration runs envisaged for mid-2019. Alstom's first Coradia iLint hydrogen new-build hydrogen multiple-units entered passenger service in Germany in September 2018, while French national operator SNCF expects to run a fuel cell powered train in 2022.

The Coradia iLint was described in detail in the March 2017 issue of Railway Gazette International magazine, which subscribers can access in the digital archive.

[Savonarola]

Not green energy, per se, but something that would reduce carbon emissions:

How to build a skyscraper out of wood

How to build a skyscraper out of wood

Building skyscrapers out of wood: It sounds bizarre, unsafe, maybe even a bit twee. But it could actually be the future of construction.

"Each material has its different pros and cons, and there's no reason that timber shouldn't be part of that larger discussion," Todd Snapp, an architect with the global firm Perkins + Will, told The Week. "I can't say it's better than steel or concrete. I can say it should be just as relevant in the discussion of what material to use."

Snapp is the design principal guiding the firm's River Beech Tower project, an 800-foot residential skyscraper that would be built almost entirely out of wood. The tower was designed in parallel with a master plan the firm was awarded to develop an area in Chicago's downtown, on the east shore of the river and just west of Grant Park. Cambridge University's Natural Material Innovation project then came to them with the notion of doing a wooden skyscraper. The idea was they would pick a real-world site and then develop the building from the ground up: As the architects fleshed out the project, that would give the Cambridge group specific structures, practices, and so forth to test out in the lab. "We wanted the research to be tied to some sense of what's immediately achievable," Snapp explained. "Ground it in reality. Let's have a real site."

Granted, River Beech Tower remains purely conceptual — a collection of designs and models, with no actual plans yet to build it. But the point of the project was to prove the idea could work.

Nor is it the only such effort. Similar plans are underway in London, Stockholm, and other cities. Eighteen-story buildings made of timber already exist in Vancouver and Minneapolis, while other structures have popped up in Norway and New Zealand.

Perkins + Will actually got its start in Chicago back in 1935. In fact, the city's great fire of 1871 was one of several disasters that helped push modern architecture away from wood and towards the steel and concrete that dominate construction today. Part of that legacy is Chicago's architecturally iconic Wrigley Building, which houses the offices where Snapp and his colleagues did much of their work on the River Beech Tower project. It's one of many efforts around the world to take history full circle and return timber to a place of prominence in architecture.

But why the effort in the first place? Well, several reasons.

For one thing, wood is lighter and more flexible than steel or concrete. A wooden skyscraper will have more give in an earthquake, for instance. The lighter weight also opens up opportunities for cost saving throughout the construction process. Wood is an excellent insulator, which would save the building's owners and residents on heating and cooling costs.

On the flip side, wood can sway too much, particularly in the wind — a major issue for taller buildings. For the River Beech Tower project, Snapp and his colleagues actually solved this problem by constructing the whole building out of triangle and diamond shapes. A triangle is a much more structurally sturdy form than a rectangle, so taking a more flexible material like wood and building triangles out of it created a structure that holds up well under forces coming at it from all sides. It also lent the project its interesting "honeycomb" aesthetic. Key connection points in the building would be reinforced with steel encased in concrete, and glass would be used in windows along with some other exterior materials. Beyond that, the skyscraper would be basically all wood.

Solving the flexibility vs. rigidity tradeoff lead to other interesting breakthroughs. The initial design of the project that Perkins + Will modeled in its computers was your standard skyscraper tower. The engineers determined the entire bottom third of the building would have to be a solid wood block to give the structure enough stability. So they redesigned the building as essentially two skyscrapers conjoined by a central atrium. That allowed them to spread the base of the building wide enough to get the necessary structural stability. It also gave them a big open space going up the core of the building, which opened up all sorts of aesthetic and interior design possibilities.

We wanted the design to evolve out of the iterative process of what the material wants to be," as Snapp put it.

Another interesting aspect of wood is that it's easier to work with than steel or concrete. Concrete has to be poured into a preset form, then allowed the time — sometimes days or weeks — to dry. Steel has to be melted and molded into the necessary shapes. Wood, however, can simply be cut. Computers and modern technology now allow for factory processes that can cut timber into all sorts of desired shapes quickly and in large quantities.

That fact allowed the River Beech Tower team to get creative about the construction process as well as the design. They came up with a plan where the building would be constructed out of standardized modules, all prefabricated at a nearby factory, then shipped to the construction site. This modular approach is not unheard of in standard construction, but it's still relatively new, and the use of wood allowed the team to take full advantage of it. It's a strategy that can save you a lot of time. And building the modules under factory settings provides for more quality control than building the whole skyscraper on site from the ground up. How far this practice could spread depends on the circumstances of each building — having Lake Michigan right next to Chicago was a big help for shipping plans — but it certainly has possibilities.

Of course, any talk of building skyscrapers out of wood is immediately going to raise concerns about fires. (Remember the aforementioned Great Chicago Fire of 1871?) But wooden beams can be covered with fire-proof coatings, just as steel beams are. More importantly, the wooden beams created with modern processes are so big and solid that it actually takes enormously high temperatures to set them on fire — below those temperatures, the surface of the beam simply chars, while the beam itself maintains its structural integrity. "Steel is actually less fire resistant in its pure form," Snapp said. "When steel hits a certain temperature it starts melting, the connections break."

Finally, it's also worth mentioning that a world where we built a lot more skyscrapers out of wood would almost certainly be a more environmentally friendly place.

Obviously, there are aspects of construction that will emit CO2 no matter what material you use. But steel and concrete also have carbon emissions intrinsic to that material: Sixty percent of concrete's emissions, for instance, come from the chemical reaction to make the concrete. Replacing a lot of steel and concrete construction with wood could save us a lot of CO2 output.

On top of that, timber is a cash crop, just like corn or potatoes. If demand for it goes up, the economic incentive to plant more trees increases too. If wooden construction became common, you'd certainly need regulatory oversight to make sure the timber came from cash crop planting and not from cutting down pre-existing forests. But planting more trees is an excellent idea for fighting climate change.

So what's standing between us and our timber skyscraper future?

Mainly time, experience, and acceptance. Architects and engineers are only just beginning to realize the possibilities of bringing wood back into the equation, now that engineering technology has advanced. Governments and construction companies still need to get used to the idea. And building codes need to change: Right now the most widely used codes limit wooden construction to around 20 stories. But those codes are updated regularly, and projects like Perkins + Will's River Beech Tower feed into the process of reviewing and expanding what's allowed.

The field of wooden skyscrapers is young. But like the trees it relies upon, it may yet grow into something remarkable.

Probably not something that would work out in Florida; even wooden frame houses are avoided due to hurricanes and termites.  Still I thought it was an interesting idea.

[Barrister]

BAh - wooden skyscrapers are an old, old technology in the Yukon:

[Eddie Teach]

4 stories is what passes for a skyscraper there?

[dps]

4 stories is what passes for a skyscraper there?

Canada:  where everything is smaller except the emptiness.