Russian Flyby of USS Donald Cook in Baltic Sea Alarms Experts

[Razgovory]

What it the thing had hit our ship, which it almost did?  Would you be so lackadaisical then?

It would be an international incident, the US would likely demand compensation from the Russian government, but that would be the end of it.  We do this to Russians all the time, you don't think they should shoot down our planes, do you?

[Admiral Yi]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

[Razgovory]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

I didn't say the US military has flown within 30 feet of a Russian ship.  I am saying that the US has "buzzed" russian targets.  It has also engaged in mock attack runs.

[Berkut]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

[The Brain]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

Badly photoshopped pic or it didn't happen.

[Admiral Yi]

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

When you start this sentence with the word "so," does that mean you think the part that follows is a natural inference from my statement? 

[CountDeMoney]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

Do you have to dial in for those National Security Council briefings every morning, or is it more like a downloadable podcast or something?

[Berkut]

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

When you start this sentence with the word "so," does that mean you think the part that follows is a natural inference from my statement? 

Yes. Am I incorrect?

[Razgovory]

During one cruise we were being followed – as usual – by a Russian "fishing boat." The scare quotes are a requirement because that ship was bristling with more antennae than quills on a medium sized porcupine and they never did seem to find much time to do any actual fishing. As long as they stayed several miles away toward the horizon we generally ignored them and went about our business. It was obviously a spy ship, but we tracked all their vessels too and it was all in the game. But during one period they decided to get really up close and personal, moving in to within a half mile or so and tracking us off the rear starboard quarter. This went on for a little while until the Captain clearly grew tired of it.

The day was dark and overcast with an extremely low cloud ceiling. In a break from our normal flight schedule, the Air Boss launched five F-14s from one of our Tomcat squadrons which quickly climbed through the cloud ceiling and disappeared. A short time later three of them landed. The guys up top in the signal shack were watching the Russians through binoculars and I happened to be out there one deck below them outside of our air search radar shack. They reported that the Soviets were watching us closely.

Nobody seemed to notice that two of our fighters were still out there until one of them dropped in a flat fall out of the clouds pretty much right on top of the Russian ship. The pilots kicked in the afterburners and they gunned the jets low over the small ship producing a ton of flame and a lot of noise. The signalmen were laughing hysterically as they reported that the Soviet sailors were diving for the decks and down through open hatches. Back in the day this was known as "roasting them." Our second F-14 followed a moment later doing the exact same thing. A short time later the Russians dropped back to a distance of about ten miles.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/14/russian-and-american-jets-buzzing-each-other-are-nothing-new-another-view/

[Tonitrus]

What it the thing had hit our ship, which it almost did?  Would you be so lackadaisical then?

Depends on whose in power.  With Trump, he'd call his friend and say "sorry for placing a destroyer in the path of your aircraft, I swear, I will never do it again!  You know how much your friendship means to me, Vlad."

Or Trump will have our aircraft buzzing Russian ships. 

[Admiral Yi]

Yes. Am I incorrect?

You are incorrect. 

[Berkut]

Discussion with Yi are always so illuminating and instructive.

[grumbler]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

The US does not buzz Russian ships or aircraft.

They used to, but signed an agreement with the Russians (Soviets, back then) not to do that sort of thing.

[Razgovory]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

So if the Russians shoot down a US warplane, and say they did so because it flew too close to one of their ships, you would be all "Had it coming to them! Good job Russkies!"?

The US does not buzz Russian ships or aircraft.

They used to, but signed an agreement with the Russians (Soviets, back then) not to do that sort of thing.

An agreement was signed but both sides have violated it (the story I posted post-dates that agreement).

[Eddie Teach]

We don't do this to Russia all the time.  AFAIK no US military airplane has ever flown within 30 feet of a Russian navy ship.

I didn't say the US military has flown within 30 feet of a Russian ship.  I am saying that the US has "buzzed" russian targets.  It has also engaged in mock attack runs.

"Tower, this is Ghost Rider, requesting a flyby"
"Отрицательно, Ghost Rider , картина полна ."