Russian Flyby of USS Donald Cook in Baltic Sea Alarms Experts

[MadBurgerMaker]

Hopefully not into one of our ships.

Hopefully, but you can't just shoot them down for being nearby and otherwise not doing anything.

[Caliga]

They've been pulling this shit for decades, numbnuts.  And there's no grounds to shoot them down.

Plenty of grounds to beat you with a full colostomy bag, though.

My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam and he did a cruise or two in the Barents Sea.  Both sides constantly maneuvered aggressively against each other all the time.  Business as usual.

[derspiess]

Hopefully not into one of our ships.

Hopefully, but you can't just shoot them down for being nearby and otherwise not doing anything.

If it's heading straight for you as if it's making an attacking run, knock it down.  I don't care if there were no bombs or missiles visible-- it still has a 23mm gun, doesn't it?

[MadBurgerMaker]

If it's heading straight for you as if it's making an attacking run, knock it down.  I don't care if there were no bombs or missiles visible-- it still has a 23mm gun, doesn't it?

Cmon, man.  The Russians are not going to start a war with the US by strafing a destroyer in the Baltic.  And even if they did go full retard and strafed the destroyer, you just shoot them down on the way out because they just attacked you.

[derspiess]

What it the thing had hit our ship, which it almost did?  Would you be so lackadaisical then?

[viper37]

Then I know you're relieved that Hillary Clinton is the only candidate remaining that not only gives a shit about actual foreign policy but is the only one with any experience in it, and that she can count on your support this November.

Yeah, no thanks.  She's a bit too interventionist for my tastes. 

yes, Trump has a non interventionist foreign policy, and since he's going to be friend wiht Putin, even adopt his style of governance as a tribute, these kind of things won't ever happen again.  And as he's pulling out of Sout-East Asia, there will be no more incidents with China either.

Great thinking there.

[MadBurgerMaker]

What it the thing had hit our ship, which it almost did?  Would you be so lackadaisical then?

You mean if it clipped the mast or something?  Yes, I still wouldn't shoot at the sinking airframe holding a now dead pilot.  If it somehow kamikazed into the ship, which it look slike it came the closes aft near the flight deck, you want to use the CIWS to shoot up the smoking hole it made?

[derspiess]

Yes, I still wouldn't shoot at the sinking airframe holding a now dead pilot.

I would.  It'd be fun as hell.


Screw you guys-- my lizard brain wants what it wants.

[derspiess]

Then I know you're relieved that Hillary Clinton is the only candidate remaining that not only gives a shit about actual foreign policy but is the only one with any experience in it, and that she can count on your support this November.

Yeah, no thanks.  She's a bit too interventionist for my tastes. 

yes, Trump has a non interventionist foreign policy, and since he's going to be friend wiht Putin, even adopt his style of governance as a tribute, these kind of things won't ever happen again.  And as he's pulling out of Sout-East Asia, there will be no more incidents with China either.

Great thinking there.

Who said anything about Trump?

[viper37]

What it the thing had hit our ship, which it almost did?  Would you be so lackadaisical then?

Depends on whose in power.  With Trump, he'd call his friend and say "sorry for placing a destroyer in the path of your aircraft, I swear, I will never do it again!  You know how much your friendship means to me, Vlad."

[viper37]

Then I know you're relieved that Hillary Clinton is the only candidate remaining that not only gives a shit about actual foreign policy but is the only one with any experience in it, and that she can count on your support this November.

Yeah, no thanks.  She's a bit too interventionist for my tastes. 

yes, Trump has a non interventionist foreign policy, and since he's going to be friend wiht Putin, even adopt his style of governance as a tribute, these kind of things won't ever happen again.  And as he's pulling out of Sout-East Asia, there will be no more incidents with China either.

Great thinking there.

Who said anything about Trump?

Because I have no idea if the other GOP candidates have any foreign policy.  It seems to change from week to week, depending on what Trump says.

[derspiess]

GOP candidates have not generally distinguished themselves re: foreign policy in this primary-- you'll get no arguments from me there.  The only one that came close to my foreign policy views was Rand Paul.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Maybe Putin wanted the plane shot down to distract from his thieving kleptocratic ways 

[The Brain]

Overredundant much?

[mongers]

That's quite close:

An U.S. Navy picture shows what appears to be a Russian Sukhoi SU-24 attack aircraft making a very low pass close to the U.S. guided missile destroyer USS Donald Cook in the Baltic Sea in this picture taken April 12, 2016 and released April 13, 2016.

Article here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-simulatedattack-idUSKCN0XA1UW?utm_source=twitter

Tim has not started a thread on this. Yet.