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The rise of American authoritarianism

Started by jimmy olsen, March 02, 2016, 05:29:29 AM

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derspiess

I'm not comparing Trump to Mussolini.  He's Berlusconi.  Trump's followers do sometimes come off like nascent blackshirts is all I'm saying.
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FunkMonk

Quote from: Valmy on March 02, 2016, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 04:11:44 PM

Now if he films a huge rally in Nuremburg, PA this summer I'll agree with you.

Oh God if he does I hope it looks like this:



I liked when I googled 'American Nazis' to get this pic it just turned up pictures of Obamahitler. I had to specify 1930s to get it :lol:

Oh 'Murica.

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Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 06:10:50 PM
I'm not comparing Trump to Mussolini.  He's Berlusconi.  Trump's followers do sometimes come off like nascent blackshirts is all I'm saying.

Spicy calls people blackshirts? World ends soon.  :cry:

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2016, 12:42:03 PM
This whole Trump thing, it all has such a Riefenstahl tinge.

That's silly.  What I will admit though that his supporters' preference for action over talk, restoring past glory, etc. has eerie similarities to Italian Fascist propaganda from the 1920s and 30s.

Now if he films a huge rally in Nuremburg, PA this summer I'll agree with you.

I dunno, man; there's more than a few similarities between today and the 1920s banging around, economically, socially...from the raw oligarchical mobsterism of Putin to the consolidation of power with a global economic fist behind it under Xi, from Lukshenko, Bloomberg, Mugabe and everyone in between, is it really too difficult to contemplate that we're entering another age of dictators?


lol, Nuremburg, PA.  The Sonic would be fucking packed.

Jacob

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2016, 08:21:27 PM
I dunno, man; there's more than a few similarities between today and the 1920s banging around, economically, socially...from the raw oligarchical mobsterism of Putin to the consolidation of power with a global economic fist behind it under Xi, from Lukshenko, Bloomberg, Mugabe and everyone in between, is it really too difficult to contemplate that we're entering another age of dictators?

Personally I think that's a little overwrought at present, and I'll continue to think so until it's way too fucking late.

... but I can see why you might think so.

Monoriu

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 02, 2016, 08:21:27 PM

I dunno, man; there's more than a few similarities between today and the 1920s banging around, economically, socially...from the raw oligarchical mobsterism of Putin to the consolidation of power with a global economic fist behind it under Xi, from Lukshenko, Bloomberg, Mugabe and everyone in between, is it really too difficult to contemplate that we're entering another age of dictators?



I believe it is peace for our time.  Europe is more integrated and peaceful than ever.  The Soviet Union is gone.  Everybody has nuclear weapons. 

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Monoriu on March 02, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
I believe it is peace for our time.  Europe is more integrated and peaceful than ever.  The Soviet Union is gone.  Everybody has nuclear weapons.

Says the guy who's such a slave to authority he would make a dominatrix wince in embarrassment.

Eat it, gimp sum.

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Quote from: PJL on March 02, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
I think it's fair to compare Trump to Mussolini, though whether he'd make Amtrak run on time is another thing altogether. Cruz on the other hand, he's definitely the Hitler type.

:rolleyes:
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Trump = Berlusconi

Yeah I definitely get that.
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Trump's like Mussolini without the policy chops.

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