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Started by jimmy olsen, March 02, 2016, 05:29:29 AM

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grumbler

#75
March 03, 2016, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

nailed it.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Berkut

#76
March 03, 2016, 04:11:53 PM
+1
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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The Brain

#77
March 03, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
I try not to worry about what things say about me.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

#78
March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#79
March 03, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

That's more my thought.  I wouldn't care what a Trump presidency says - I would care about what a Trump presidency would do.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

garbon

#80
March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

That's more my thought.  I wouldn't care what a Trump presidency says - I would care about what a Trump presidency would do.

Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Malthus

#81
March 03, 2016, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 03, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
I try not to worry about what things say about me.

It's just your luck that animals can't talk.  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

derspiess

#82
March 03, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

Once the dust settles, I have a feeling Trump would be cutting deals left and right (with both the left and the right, come to think of it).
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#83
March 03, 2016, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

Once the dust settles, I have a feeling Trump would be cutting deals left and right (with both the left and the right, come to think of it).

I don't really think much of what your body tells you. :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Barrister

#84
March 03, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

That's more my thought.  I wouldn't care what a Trump presidency says - I would care about what a Trump presidency would do.

Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

He's still commander in chief and presidents seem to be getting more muscular in using "executive orders".
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

garbon

#85
March 03, 2016, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

That's more my thought.  I wouldn't care what a Trump presidency says - I would care about what a Trump presidency would do.

Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

He's still commander in chief and presidents seem to be getting more muscular in using "executive orders".

I'm not sure I know how to interpret your statement.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Barrister

#86
March 03, 2016, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 03, 2016, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

That's more my thought.  I wouldn't care what a Trump presidency says - I would care about what a Trump presidency would do.

Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

He's still commander in chief and presidents seem to be getting more muscular in using "executive orders".

I'm not sure I know how to interpret your statement.

I agree he's not going to get much legislation done.  I still think it'd be horrific with Trump as your nation's President.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

dps

#87
March 03, 2016, 06:06:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

Nor am I, and I don't really care what the Euros think of our politics and government, either.  However, the fact that large numbers of Americans are willing to actually vote for Donald Trump makes me feel very disappointed in my fellow citizens.

Habbaku

#88
March 03, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: dps on March 03, 2016, 06:06:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 03, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
What bothers me more than what a Trump presidency could mean to the US is what a Trump presidency says about us.

Meh.  I'm not out to impress anyone.

Nor am I, and I don't really care what the Euros think of our politics and government, either.  However, the fact that large numbers of Americans are willing to actually vote for Donald Trump makes me feel very disappointed in my fellow citizens.

Stop being so hysterical.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#89
March 03, 2016, 11:31:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 03, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 03, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
Very little. Not much you can do when you have both political parties against you.

Once the dust settles, I have a feeling Trump would be cutting deals left and right (with both the left and the right, come to think of it).

You really buy in to that "deal-maker-in-chief", bullshit don't you? :lol:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017
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